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25-06-2015, 13:14
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#46
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Location: San Diego CA
Boat: Liberty 458
Posts: 2,204
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
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Originally Posted by Kenomac
Why limit your choices to the very few made in America? The U.S. Dollar is strong against the euro, and it's currently a buyer's market in Europe. Look at some Hallberg Rasseys and Oysters in your size and price range. Forget about American companies that just re-badge an Asian product. The good stuff is being built in Europe.
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+1 for european built blue water yachts.
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25-06-2015, 13:26
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#47
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Vancouver
Boat: Island Packet 445
Posts: 56
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
I don't see any mention of what your budget is.
We have an Island Packet and it's a beauty - and definitely built for blue water. We also searched for a NAFTA boat and there is precious little to choose from that is less than 15-20 years old. As for GST etc, be careful taking advice from anyone on this forum who hasn't actually done the registration process and imported a boat into Canada. Ask Revenue Canada if you want clarification - don't take the word of those on the forum who may be just offering opinions.
We registered our boat in Canada but it is moored in USA. Haven't paid any taxes yet but if we do bring it into Canada, HST and PST would be due. So we're content with sailing in USA waters.
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25-06-2015, 13:38
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#48
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 504
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
^ This sounds like good advise. Thought you were from USA..
Got to be Gozzard 41 then..
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25-06-2015, 13:56
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#49
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 848
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
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Originally Posted by leftbrainstuff
Southerly UK out of business? Where do you read that?
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Sounds unlikely they'll be back for Round #3...
Southerly Yachts folds again
26 Aug 2014
SOUTHERLY YACHTS: One of the biggest sailboat names in British boat building, Southerly Yachts, has folded again, writes Barry Pickthall.
This latest debacle comes just 13 months after the brand had been ‘rescued’ from an earlier receivership with debts of £1,972,520.
- See more at: Boating Business - Southerly Yachts folds again Yachts folds again
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26-06-2015, 09:06
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#50
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 504
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
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Originally Posted by Jon Eisberg
Sounds unlikely they'll be back for Round #3...
Southerly Yachts folds again
26 Aug 2014
SOUTHERLY YACHTS: One of the biggest sailboat names in British boat building, Southerly Yachts, has folded again, writes Barry Pickthall.
This latest debacle comes just 13 months after the brand had been ‘rescued’ from an earlier receivership with debts of £1,972,520.
- See more at: Boating Business - Southerly Yachts folds again Yachts folds again
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They are trading.. have been trading a while now. They have just launched a new 36 so maybe they are healthy under this phoenix company.
Southerly
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26-06-2015, 09:39
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#51
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 848
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
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Originally Posted by paulanthony
They are trading.. have been trading a while now. They have just launched a new 36 so maybe they are healthy under this phoenix company.
Southerly
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Perhaps... Just too busy to update their website from 16 months ago, probably ;-)
These chintzy renderings can be pretty amusing... Judging by the relative scale of those figures in the cockpit, that has to be by far The Largest 36-Footer Ever Built...
Everyone's doing it these days... Can there be any doubt that the Blue Jacket 40 is undoubtedly The Largest 40-Footer Ever Built?
:-)
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26-06-2015, 13:33
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#52
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Guilford, CT
Boat: Bristol 35.5 1978
Posts: 440
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
JD;
To add to the list, Bristol 42.2, but why soooo large...would also add the Bristol 35.5...albeit no longer in production.
For characteristics of an offshore yacht, would recommend J Rousmaniere's book, Desirable and Undesirable Characteristics of Offshore Yachts. Written by the technical committee of the cruising club of America, including O Stephens, R McCurdy, W Lapworth, B Shaw and more...
enjoy.
dav
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26-06-2015, 13:52
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#53
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Portugal/Med
Boat: Comet 41s
Posts: 6,140
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
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Originally Posted by paulanthony
They are trading.. have been trading a while now. They have just launched a new 36 so maybe they are healthy under this phoenix company.
Southerly
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They have been in and out of bankruptcy for some years but I would not buy a boat for them since one of the last boats had to be finished by the owner at is own costs. I heard that story from the owner on this or another forum.
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26-06-2015, 14:09
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#54
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Portugal/Med
Boat: Comet 41s
Posts: 6,140
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
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Originally Posted by Jon Eisberg
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Everyone's doing it these days... Can there be any doubt that the Blue Jacket 40 is undoubtedly The Largest 40-Footer Ever Built?
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Ok, I agree with that
Here is the real thing:
The interior looks a bit posh to me and I would say that it could be better designed, even so it is an interesting boat with a uninteresting price.
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26-06-2015, 14:20
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#55
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Presently on US East Coast
Boat: Manta 40 "Reach"
Posts: 10,104
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Eisberg
Everyone's doing it these days... Can there be any doubt that the Blue Jacket 40 is undoubtedly The Largest 40-Footer Ever Built?
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I don't know Jon,
I just took a ruler to that guy in blue and to the boat. Assuming that guy is 6', then the boat would be a tad over 41'.
Not everyone can make a boat look as small as you...
Mark
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26-06-2015, 14:52
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#57
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Presently on US East Coast
Boat: Manta 40 "Reach"
Posts: 10,104
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
Lots of choices in used boats, but I think the OP specified current production North American boats.
Mark
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26-06-2015, 15:39
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#58
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Arizona/Rhode Island
Boat: Swan 432
Posts: 818
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
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Originally Posted by Exile
What about C&C? Canada I believe. Not sure it fits some folks' "bluewater" designation or not, but seems to enjoy a good overall rep.
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There used to be a fairly new 121 for sale in San Francisco for under $100K. A little low on stowage but a nice boat.
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26-06-2015, 15:53
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#59
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Boat: Able 50
Posts: 3,136
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
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Originally Posted by colemj
Lots of choices in used boats, but I think the OP specified current production North American boats.
Mark
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Sorta kinda right . . . . . . . but then . . . . . . . in post #40 . . . . . . . . he weakened.
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27-06-2015, 08:52
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#60
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Victoria, BC
Boat: Catalina 36 MKII
Posts: 1,104
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Re: Current production bluewater boats
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Originally Posted by savoir
Sorta kinda right . . . . . . . but then . . . . . . . in post #40 . . . . . . . . he weakened.
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LOL ..... I think that I am just too much fixated on the Outbound. Going by whatever I could find out about all the boats mentioned, none seem to come close to how the Outbound speaks to me.
Of course it requires a lottery win to buy a new Outbound and since my sailing is basically coastal this may not go very far .... but D R O O L ... 
Thank you everybody for your input!
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