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27-05-2011, 12:14
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#421
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Spain and London
Boat: Corbin 39
Posts: 332
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
Hmmm, going Sailing on Sunday, looks like it may well be on a Jeanneau, never been on one before, ive done the Bavaria 44 over 2 weekly periods so this is a 1st, will give you my humble opinion Sunday nite 
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27-05-2011, 12:16
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#422
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Spain and London
Boat: Corbin 39
Posts: 332
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
Forgot to ask, how to I get a photo on my profile, not sure you want to see what I look like but ive a nice photo at the helm I thought i would put on, ive looked at at all the info inside my profile data but cant see anything, yes I know, probably really easy, but I cant see any instructions....thanks, Pablo.
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27-05-2011, 12:49
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#423
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,823
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
Check out this chipboard!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a piccy of a hole in my galley (stuffed if I know why Beneteau put a HOLE there! Will I sink??)
Anyway it clearly shows the construction of my thingies wiv holes.
Even Oyster uses laminates.
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27-05-2011, 12:53
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#424
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Moderator... short for Cat Wrangler
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Francisco
Boat: Cal 28 Flush Deck
Posts: 5,559
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
silly, that's not chip board, that's plywood.... but it is all covered in laminate.
this is chipboard...
You have the good stuff ; -)
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ain't what ya do, it's the way that ya do it...
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27-05-2011, 12:54
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#425
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Florida/Alberta
Boat: Lippincott 30
Posts: 9,905
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
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Originally Posted by MarkJ
Check out this chipboard!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a piccy of a hole in my galley (stuffed if I know why Beneteau put a HOLE there! Will I sink??)
Anyway it clearly shows the construction of my thingies wiv holes.
Even Oyster uses laminates.
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Great pic, Mark. Laminates are a far cry from chip board and the MDF stuff Ikea uses. That stuff will disintegrate at just any hints of moisture.
What Sarafina said :thumbs up
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27-05-2011, 13:44
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#426
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S/V rubber ducky
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bahamas cruising currently
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 19,391
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkJ
Check out this chipboard!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a piccy of a hole in my galley (stuffed if I know why Beneteau put a HOLE there! Will I sink??)
Anyway it clearly shows the construction of my thingies wiv holes.
Even Oyster uses laminates.
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They put it there so you would see it and say to yourself "man that's good wood" to prevent you from looking elsewhere at the rest of the wood.
Just kidding! 
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27-05-2011, 15:06
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#427
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
chipboard is ok right? Depends on the glue right? 
How about this Beneteau?
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._id=32744&url=
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27-05-2011, 15:11
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#428
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,591
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
chipboard is ok right? Depends on the glue right? |
chipboard is great,just dont get it any where near a marine enviroment,or any dampness,great for centrally heated houses.............
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27-05-2011, 15:13
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#429
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Nearly an old salt
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
Posts: 22,818
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Beneteau uses plywood and wood veneer just like oyster HR etc. In fact given the volumes they can use best quality stuff as it costs them a fraction that smaller boat builders pay.
Dave
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27-05-2011, 16:20
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#430
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Brisbane
Boat: deboated
Posts: 672
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by goboatingnow
Good steel welding is not easy. Nor can you take a class and become a good welder. It matters not whether it's stick or MIG or TIG. If you examine the welds under X-ray there's world of difference between talented beginners and experts. Throw in some overhead or awkward positions and then see.
I'm not knocking you're efforts , just don't claim it's easy merely because you did a class or two.
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I could not agree more and used aluminium can be impossible to weld satisfactorily due to porosity not visible by eye.
From a straight welding point of view the advent of three phase power outlets being provided at most major world reefs, rocks and known hazards all free of charge is an attraction to steel boats.  Fiberglass does not require any kind of machinery to apply and a simple repair kit can easily be stored aboard does not imediate action to be taken if a little chip of paint gets dislodged. Before anyone takes exception this subject was about a line of boats all built from glass of some type. Secondly I know no one who likes steel will take any notice of what anyone says regarding the deficencies of Steel or alloy but there are reasons most manufacturers use f/glass.
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27-05-2011, 16:42
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#431
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
three phase power outlets - maybe so...but I will go with a generator or perhaps a stick for temporary repairs.
Steel is wonderful stuff...
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28-05-2011, 12:32
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#432
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
if you are 6'4, thenye has to look for boats designed by TALL designers--mine has 6'4 headroom thruout..lol but is an older boat-- formosas were designed by a tall guy-- same with hardin and ct and force.....but they have rep following them they dont deserve..LOL.... and can be found dirt cheap. they arealso quite striking when sailing with all sails up and a bone in hteir teeth......
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28-05-2011, 12:54
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#433
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Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
Boat: Moody 31
Posts: 17,302
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
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How much  surely a zero to many.
Pete
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28-05-2011, 13:04
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#434
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Spain and London
Boat: Corbin 39
Posts: 332
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
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Originally Posted by Pete7
How much surely a zero to many.
Pete |
Pete, that price is bloody pie in the sky!! Am certain there are plenty of brokers sniffing around here, I know that from PMs ive recieved with offers of boats! My advice to anyone looking for a boat is to completely ignore the price you see, do a bit of research and then make an offer that you are comfortable with, dont worry about upsetting people!
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28-05-2011, 17:30
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#435
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Virginia, USA & Krabi, Thailand
Boat: Wauquiez Pretorien 35
Posts: 2,819
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Re: Can Jeanneau , Bavaria or Beneteau Be Good as Ocean Crossing Boats ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
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More like a work of art that belongs on a pedestal! 
I'd be afraid of scratching something.
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