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13-10-2012, 04:51
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Re: Buy or deliver a yacht across the Atlantic: Advice please
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Originally Posted by Blue Crab
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Phil has probably been advised to go quiet until its settled so can't say anything. Hopefully he will be able to post good news in a few weeks, CF members seem to be rooting for him.
That Grampian would be good this side of the pond with that lifting keel.
Pete
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13-10-2012, 10:33
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#32
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Re: Buy or deliver a yacht across the Atlantic: Advice please
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Originally Posted by Tia Bu
20k is plenty of money for this. Don't listen to the naysayers. Consider a Dufour Arpege. You should be able to get one in ocean-crossing shape for considerably less than your budget. They are more expensive in Europe, but easier to find there. More room and better sea boat than a Vega or Contessa.
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There is one on e bay UK at the moment, only it's not in Southport but Fleetwood up the coast.
Yachts for Sale Dufour Arpege 30.4 foot Sailing Boat Yacht | eBay
Pete
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13-10-2012, 12:17
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Re: Buy or deliver a yacht across the Atlantic: Advice please
Buying in the EEC or UK means VAT of 20% is built in even if historically. I think very few boats are ocean ready especially in the lower price ranges as most are coastal cruisers. I would include rigging and sails as likely to be not up to par. I would also budget on the safety gear. Ocean flares, SSB, and liferaft are usually considered required though some skimp. I would also point out that despite the pictures and owner/broker statements generally you get what you pay for and a good inspection is likely to reveal or not a number of costly items which will emerge. You might want to allow fifty percent for these.
Route planning particularly timing is one of the skills a captain as opposed to crewing offshore requires.
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25-10-2012, 01:08
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Re: Buy or deliver a yacht across the Atlantic: Advice please
This is not a good time to be crossing biscay or even to be leaving the uk,why not see whats for sale in gibraltar & along the costas in spain or portugal,
There are plenty of bargains to be had by anyone with readies,it is then an easy downwind sail to the canaries.(done it several times)
Don,t let the doubters put you off,(It,s easy to find an excuse NOT to do something)
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26-10-2012, 01:34
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Re: Buy or deliver a yacht across the Atlantic: Advice please
Well guess what, you all turned out to be right, I came close to, but couldn't quite find the right yacht in the UK, so I've moved on to Portugal, and have been offered crewing positions from here to the canaries and on to St Lucia in the ARC. If the people who offered weren't so lovely I'd still be looking for my own, but they're too nice to refuse and the singlehanded dream will have to wait (at least until I get to the Bahamas and need to ge back to Australia.) Thanks again for all your advice, I'm a big believer in 'the wisdom of the crowd' (there is a great book of that name BTW, well worth a read)) I really benefitted from all the comments and opinions, so thank you once again, and hope to meet some of you on the water one of these days...
Simeon
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26-10-2012, 02:14
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Re: Buy or deliver a yacht across the Atlantic: Advice please
Cheers for the follow up (it don't always happen ).
The good thing about your choice is less aggro. Less aggro = more fun .
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26-10-2012, 02:32
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Re: Buy or deliver a yacht across the Atlantic: Advice please
Sounds like a great plan. Take the camera and let us know how you get on.
Pete
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26-10-2012, 02:41
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Re: Buy or deliver a yacht across the Atlantic: Advice please
Very cool. I love the ARC and would love to participate in it one day. Good luck and enjoy!
Onno
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26-10-2012, 04:36
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Re: Buy or Deliver a Yacht Across the Atlantic: Advice Please
Congratulations on finding a good crew spot. I think you've found a great way to start out your sailing career. Enjoy.
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26-10-2012, 11:56
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Re: Buy or Deliver a Yacht Across the Atlantic: Advice Please
Great news Simeon,you have a woderful trip ahead,enjoy it.
let us know your plans when you have sussed out the west inde s
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28-10-2012, 05:27
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Originally Posted by simeon.michaels
Well guess what, you all turned out to be right, I came close to, but couldn't quite find the right yacht in the UK, so I've moved on to Portugal, and have been offered crewing positions from here to the canaries and on to St Lucia in the ARC. If the people who offered weren't so lovely I'd still be looking for my own, but they're too nice to refuse and the singlehanded dream will have to wait (at least until I get to the Bahamas and need to ge back to Australia.) Thanks again for all your advice, I'm a big believer in 'the wisdom of the crowd' (there is a great book of that name BTW, well worth a read)) I really benefitted from all the comments and opinions, so thank you once again, and hope to meet some of you on the water one of these days...
Simeon
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Hi Simoen.
While you're in the canaries, feel free to take a gander of my Amigo27 near LP. It's a well built Scandinavian and has the ability to cross the Atlantic as I'm told by other sailors.
I bought it two yrs ago, lived on it for a couple of months doing minor repairs and found it quite comfy. Since then I was in an auto accident and may not be able to get to GC for awhile. Therefore I am thinking about selling.
Here are the specs and picture. Feel free to message me if you're interested. Price is right up your alley. Cheers and wish you a great adventure!
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=3525
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