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Old 15-05-2017, 20:55   #241
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Gulfstar 39 Sailmaster

Steady's Notes

1. This is a design I have posted before, look back a few pages to find a more complete profile of this model of boat with more notes and to compare.

2. This is the LOWEST priced Gulfstar 39 Sailmaster I have ever seen.

3. Ad says the engine has just 200 hours. It also says the boat was "refit" in 2014-2015, and that it needs some work.

4. Ad says this boat will be on the market till MAY 24th, then OFF the market until the fall.

5. Notice the Full Enclosure Canvas, Stack Pack on Main, Davits, swim platform, boarding ladder, and Solar Panel

6. This is a boat with a full standup separate shower in the head.

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Sale Listing Ad (May 15 2017)

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/boa/6118859643.html

Year = 1981
Location = Jacksonville FL, USA

Asking Price = $24,000 OBO
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Specifications

Hull Type: Fin with rudder on skeg Rig Type: Masthead Sloop
LOA: 39.58' / 12.06m LWL: 32.42' / 9.88m
Beam: 12.06' / 3.68m Listed SA: 684 ft2 / 63.54 m2
Draft (max.) 4.75' / 1.45m Draft (min.)
Displacement: 19000 lbs./ 8618 kgs. Ballast: 8200 lbs. / 3720 kgs.
Sail Area/Disp.1: 15.43 Bal./Disp.: 43.17% Disp./Len.: 248.92
Designer: Richard Lazzara
Builder: Gulfstar Yachts (USA)
Construction: FG Bal. type:
First Built: 1981 Last Built: 1984 # Built: 57
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All photos are from THIS ad for THIS boat.
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My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Old 29-05-2017, 12:42   #242
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Aloha 32


Draft: 4’ 9”,
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1. It is often said to look for a used boat where the owner has put a lot of care into it or one that has been outfitted for cruising. This saves the new buyer a lot of effort, time, and money, when you consider all the little things that cruisers want to have on their boats.

2. This boat has a recently repowered Diesel engine.

3. The boat has an arch with numerous good things for cruising (RADAR, SOLAR, Inverter), etc.

4. I like the layout. I too would use the forward cabin for storage (as shown in the photos).

5. The owner is including everything associated with the boat, including tools, and books, dinghy with sail, JSD drogue, BBQ, Liferaft, etc. It is the most complete list of "cruising gear" and stuff I have seen in a sale listing. See the description below. I have highlighted a few of the things I would want to see or add to an older boat, and this boat already has them.

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http://www.sailboatlistings.com/photographs/64883

Year = 1984
Location = Florida
Asking Price = $25,000
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Description from the Ad (Steady's Bolding Key Items)

Displacement: 9,800 lbs, Ballast: 4,000 lbs
Length: 32’ 5”, Beam: 10’10”, Draft: 4’ 9”, Height: 46’, Hull speed: 6.7 knots

Aloha 32, designed by Mark Ellis, Hull No. 41, built by Ouyang Boat Works, Whitney Ontario, 1984, USCG Document No. 689807

Sloop, Keel stepped mast, Extended fin bolted keel, Wheel steering, Ritch Compass, 3 halyards, topping lift, reefing and outhaul internal and lead to
Cockpit

Sails: Main sail: 213 sq ft, Genoa 464 sq ft bent on, spinnaker, serviceable main, storm jib stowed forward, Harken headsail roller furler
Engine: Universal diesel M25XPB (2014), Transmission: ZF15MIV (2017)
Fuel tank: 24 gal, Fuel tank: 19 gal, Water tanks: 72 gal, Holding tank: 36 gal
Anchors: 35 lbs Delta – 150’ chain & 200’ line, 25 lbs CQR – 25’ chain & 200’ line, 25 lbs Bruce & 200’ line
Windlass: Lewmar V-1
Hatches: 2 large, 2 small, 4 ports opening
Winches: 2 Barlow 25 self tailing, Barlow 19, Barlow 15
Electric: 110 v 50’ cable, 12 v 3 house batteries 600 CCA, cranking battery 800 CCA, 2 Kyocera 130 watt solar panels, ProStar 15 solar controller, Xantrey charger, 1400 watt inverter, 150 watt inverter, navigation lights, anchor light, deck light
Autopilot: Raymarine SmartPilot ST6002, Linear Drive M81130, Fluxgate Compass, Rudder Position Sensor
Radar: Furuno 1622
Radio: SSB Transceiver ICOM IC-M710, Automatic Antenna Tuner ICOM AT-130, VHF West Marine VHF585, VHF West Marine Hand Held 160, Sony FM/AM
Depth Sounder: Standard Horizon DS 150
Dinghy: Walker Bay 8ft with sail kit
Galley & Head amidship, 2 burner with oven propane gimbal stove, pressure hot and cold water, 6 gal 110v & coolant circulation water heater, drop-leafed table, 2 Settee berths, wide Quarter-berth, fully found with crockery, cutlery, utensils, pots, linens, blankets, Jabsco manual toilet (new pump 2017)
Fore Cabin: 2 hanging lockers, storage bins, sail racks, anchor chain and line, rope, power cord, hose
Safety: Type V, Type III, 4 Type II, 6 Type IV PFD’s, Safety Harness, Boson Chair, mast steps, 2 Mobic radar reflectors, anchor ball, 2 fire extinguishers, air horn, signal flares, Jordon Series Drogue (custom made by Ace Sailmakers, East Lyme, CT), carbon monoxide & smoke detectors, first aid kits, life raft (out of inspection), wooden plugs, emergency tiller, 2 bilge pumps
Miscellaneous: fenders, mooring lines, Honda 6amp generator, boarding ladder, cordage, tools, screws, nuts, bolts, parts, electric supplies, rigging parts, spare filters, replacement fluids, paints, cleaners, cruising books, screens, wind shoot, national curtesy flags, international signal flags, cruising guides, sewing kit, fan, binoculars, manuals, weather gear">foul weather gear, laptop tray & tablet mounts, Magma grill, steering pedestal bracket table & drink holder, Mark 25 Sextant

Asking: $25,000

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My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Bayfield 29

Year = 1985
Draft = 3' 6"
Location = South Carolina
Asking Price = $18,900

Sale Listing Ad (May 29, 1017)
http://www.sailboatlistings.com/photographs/6595
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This boat appears to be in nice condition. There is a good, detailed description of the boat with what comes with it, via the link above.
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I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Old 29-05-2017, 18:14   #244
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

I can't recall if this one has already been posted. . . . The ultimate shallow-draft Bahamas boat.

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/chl...078985210.html

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MeadowLark Sailboat: 18" draft, 37' long - $35000 (Chesapeake Bay)

condition: good
length overall (LOA): 37
propulsion type: sail
year manufactured: 1970

Make an offer

the Vessel of your Shallow water Dreams! Can you imagine 18" Draft for a 37' Ketch?

drop me a line and your phone number if you know what this is and you are interested

not many still around of this design......this vessel is really in great shape......do you like those wings?......they are called Lee Boards.
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Old 30-05-2017, 00:08   #245
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I can't recall if this one has already been posted. . . . The ultimate shallow-draft Bahamas boat.

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/chl...078985210.html

Quoting from the ad:

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MeadowLark Sailboat: 18" draft, 37' long - $35000 (Chesapeake Bay)

condition: good
length overall (LOA): 37
propulsion type: sail
year manufactured: 1970

Make an offer

the Vessel of your Shallow water Dreams! Can you imagine 18" Draft for a 37' Ketch?

drop me a line and your phone number if you know what this is and you are interested

not many still around of this design......this vessel is really in great shape......do you like those wings?......they are called Lee Boards.
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The Meadowlarks are great little shoal draft sailors, one of Herreshoff's best designs. I looked at one in Mass. prior to purchasing my Presto 36.
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Howdy Sailors!

Show Your Shallow Draft Boat Sailing!

Now that the summer sailing season has started in North America, I think it is time for this thread to show some Boats with Shallow Draft in the act of sailing!

Please post a photo of YOUR boat sailing, or of your favorite Shallow Draft Boat model sailing.

Whether it is your own Pride and Joy, or your Dream Boat, let's show the CF members what makes the Shallow Draft Boats so special.

Perhaps you have a photo of your Shallow Draft Boat gunkholing in the Chesapeake. Or near shore in the Bahamas or the Florida Keys. Or maybe you own a catamaran or trimaran or a swing keel boat and you have a photo of your boat pulled up to a beach (something I admire). Show us.

Let's put in some more photos to illustrate the Shallow Draft Boat world here in this thread.

IF you don't have a photo of your own boat sailing, then do a Google image search and find a sistership. Or post a photo of another Shallow Draft Boat you admire.

And, if you have been doing some cruising on your Shallow Draft Boat, take a photo from your blog or own site and share it here, with some comments about what you liked about your boat on your cruise. Tell others about YOUR boat or your model.

Let's see some sails! Let's see some boats!
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Steady, Thank you for the continuing dedication to facilitating fantastic and informative topics like these.

I am a bit overwhelmed by the sheer number of boats, manufacturers, and, indeed, opinions about boats. Since the only thing people seem to agree in is that there is no perfect boat/everything is a trade-off, and since we are based out of Florida just north of Tampa, is there a query or search that will enable me to look at a comprehensive list of boats with drafts under 5'? I thought I'd ask here but please feel free to scold me if I should ask somewhere else (as long as you tell me where that is!).

Thanks in advance.
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Gemini catamaran, 18 inch draught.
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31 feet, draft 3'8" under sail.

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Presto 36. 2'-6" board up, 5'-6" board down. Designed with a lead grounding shoe to take the ground upright.
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Presto 36. 2'-6" board up, 5'-6" board down. Designed with a lead grounding shoe to take the ground upright.
Is your boat something like this:

1979 Sharpe Presto 36 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

We sailed a Beachcomber, a smaller Presto design, for about 10 years. The 15" draft was great for exploring. We'll never go back to a deep draft boat.
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Steady, Thank you for the continuing dedication to facilitating fantastic and informative topics like these.

I am a bit overwhelmed by the sheer number of boats, manufacturers, and, indeed, opinions about boats. Since the only thing people seem to agree in is that there is no perfect boat/everything is a trade-off, and since we are based out of Florida just north of Tampa, is there a query or search that will enable me to look at a comprehensive list of boats with drafts under 5'? I thought I'd ask here but please feel free to scold me if I should ask somewhere else (as long as you tell me where that is!).

Thanks in advance.
We're in Hudson Beach. Where are you located? If I were you I'd keep the draft under 4'. If you're north of Tarpon Springs and not familiar with the waters you'll be amazed at how shallow it is up here. Personally, I wouldn't own a boat with more than a 3' draft in this area. That limits your options but there are actually quite a few extreme shoal draft boats out there. Here's a few examples of boats with 3' or less draft:
Glander Tavana 33
Island Packet 31
Lazy Jack Schooner 34
Seaward 32
Southerly 42
Presto 30
Shannon Shoalsailer 35
Nimble 30
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Is your boat something like this:

1979 Sharpe Presto 36 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

We sailed a Beachcomber, a smaller Presto design, for about 10 years. The 15" draft was great for exploring. We'll never go back to a deep draft boat.
My hull, cockpit and rig are very similar, but my trunk cabin's forward profile is more conventional in appearance. The one and only other Presto 36 that I have seen, in Beaufort NC. had a full width raised deck cabin, so I know that there can be some considerable differences in design. My Presto was build by a company called Perfection Industries in Ft. Lauderdale FL. in the 1990's from Ralph Middleton Munroe's 1884 design. PS Many years ago I almost bought a Beachcomber 25 with its unstayed rig. Loved it but I was too late for the sale.
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My hull, cockpit and rig are very similar, but my trunk cabin's forward profile is more conventional in appearance. The one and only other Presto 36 that I have seen, in Beaufort NC. had a full width raised deck cabin, so I know that there can be some considerable differences in design. My Presto was build by a company called Perfection Industries in Ft. Lauderdale FL. in the 1990's from Ralph Middleton Munroe's 1884 design. PS Many years ago I almost bought a Beachcomber 25 with its unstayed rig. Loved it but I was too late for the sale.
That's the first time I've ever seen an eyebrow on the forward end of a trunk cabin before. I saw the listing of the Presto in NC. Looked like a neat boat. From what I understand Monroe's Presto design was the inspiration for Hereshoff's Meadowlark. Two great designers that influence boat design to this day.
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That's the first time I've ever seen an eyebrow on the forward end of a trunk cabin before. I saw the listing of the Presto in NC. Looked like a neat boat. From what I understand Monroe's Presto design was the inspiration for Hereshoff's Meadowlark. Two great designers that influence boat design to this day.
I tried to buy the boat in NC three years ago for the price the owners now want for the boat. It had a very spacious interior with nice wood trim. Munroe grew up in the New York, Staten Island and Fire Island area and earned a love of the sea at a very early age. It was on Fire Island that he saw and sailed his first sharpie sailboat, a type which would figure so important later in his life. Munroe and Herreshoff had been friends earlier in their lives when Munroe still lived in the north and renewed their earlier friendship upon a visit by Herreshoff and his wife to Munroe's Coconut Grove home in 1920. The Herreshoffs were installed in a little cottage on the grounds for that visit and for the rest of Herreshoff's life he spent his winters there, a guest of Munroe and his family. The semi-autobiography, "The Commodore's Story", by Munroe and others, illuminates this fascinating relationship of two men and their love for sailing vessels.
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