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Old 28-04-2017, 09:08   #226
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

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Fair enough. How about this Block Island 40 currently offered at the BoatAngel ebay auction? Bidding was only $5600 as of this morning.

1959 Block Island 40'6" Yawl Sailboat - Florida | eBay

FYI, sailboatdata.com lists the draft for this centerboarder at 3.9', not 4.5' as stated in the listing.
That is an interesting find. .

Looking at the photos, it appears someone has take some time to make the wood (brightwork) look good. I like what I see in the photos and in the hull design (lines, see drawing below). Notice those long overhangs!

For anyone not familiar with this boat design, here are a few points of info to consider:
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From Sailboatdata:
Originally called the VITESSE 40 and built in Holland. The molds were purchased by Beetle Boat Co. (a division of American Boat Building Co.)
This was one of the earliest production fiberglass boats of this size.
Later, the molds were aquired by Metalmast Marine. The version they built has a separate spade rudder and reverse transom. (Sometimes referred to as BLOCK ISLAND 40-2) and was built until 1978?.
Re-introduced, on a limited basis, in the early 1980's with a hull similar to the original but with redesigned deck and coach roof.

Hull Type: Keel/Cbrd. Rig Type: Masthead Yawl
LOA: 40.00' / 12.19m LWL: 27.50' / 8.38m
Beam: 11.75' / 3.58m Listed SA: 650 ft2 / 60.38 m2
Draft (max.) 8.42' / 2.57m Draft (min.) 3.92' / 1.19m
Displacement: 21000 lbs./ 9526 kgs. Ballast: 5000 lbs. / 2268 kgs.
Sail Area/Disp.1: 13.72 Bal./Disp.: 23.81% Disp./Len.: 450.79
Designer: William Tripp Jr,
Builder: Beetle Boat Co./American Boat Building (USA)
Construction: FG Bal. type:
First Built: 1957
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Gulfstar 37

Steady's Notes

1. This boat appears to be in very good condition for its age. Previous owner evidently spent some money on refit in 2010.
2. It has a relatively new Yanmar engine (2010)
3. Radar, manual windlass, autopilot, A/C, ST Winches, etc.

4. More photos via the linked ad.

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Sale Listing Ad (May 1, 2017)
1977 Gulfstar 37 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Location = Rock Hall MD, USA
Asking Price = $25,000

Gulfstar design has a cutaway forefoot, long fin keel, skeg hung rudder and protected running gear.

Upgraded with a Yanmar 3JH4E Diesel engine in 2010.

PRICE DROPPED NOW $25,000.

Dimensions
LOA: 37 ft 0 in
Beam: 11 ft 8 in
LWL: 32 ft 0 in
Maximum Draft: 4 ft 8 in
Displacement: 19500 lbs
Ballast: 7500 lbs
Headroom: 6 ft 4 in

Engines
Total Power: 40 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Yanmar
Year Built: 2010
Engine Model: 3JH4E
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Propeller: 3 blade propeller
Drive Type: Direct Drive
Engine Power: 40 HP


Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: 100
Fuel Tanks: 36
Holding Tanks: 20


Mechanical

Yanmar 3JH4E Diesel (2010)
Strainer/shaft/prop and soft goods replaced (2010)

Electrical panel changed to breakers
TrueCharge 40 Charger
3 group 27 Low Maint Batts
Reverse Cycle A/C
Crosby 12V cold plate Refrigeration


Electronics

JRC RADAR 1500 / Plotter at helm
Mast mounted Radar Antenna

Raymarine Depth
ICOM M502 Radio
Belt Driven Autopilot
On Deck

Simpson-Lawrence Seahorse manual windlass w/chain counter
Anchor roller on Teak Platform
Delta Anchor
Self tailing Primaries
2 Dorade boxes
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My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Old 01-05-2017, 17:50   #228
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Morgan 382

Steady's Notes
1. This Morgan 382 just had the price dropped substantially to a new low price. NOTE the interior condition, the cruising gear, professional paint (Awlgrip) Bimini, and the low price. Overall, this appears to be a boat in very good condition at a very good price.

2. Red Awlgrip Hull

3. Some good cruising gear (check the listing) Maxwell Windlass, davits, GPS, AC/Heat, etc.

3. This model has a separate shower in the head. (see photo on ad)

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Sale Listing Ad (May 1, 2017)

Asking Price = $25,000
NOTE! Price was reduced by $13K on April 25, 2017


Location = Solomons MD, USA

1980 38' Morgan 382 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Description from Ad:
A vivid red hull, recently professionally AwlGripped, makes Celerity stand out from the crowd. Her interior is accented in teak and has a teak/holly cabin sole. She is a good club-level racer, yet a comfortable, roomy cruiser for your blue water adventures. This Morgan has been updated to include many extras. Perkins 4-108 50 hp diesel. Loaded with cruising gear: AC/heat, 12V refrigeration, LP stove with oven, 1800 inverter, solar panels, GPS/radar, autopilot, wind instruments, electric windlass, (2) biminis, and davits. REDUCED 13K 4-25-17 BRING OFFERS !
Specs
Keel: Fin

Dimensions
LOA: 38 ft 4 in
Beam: 12 ft 0 in
LWL: 30 ft 8 in
Maximum Draft: 5 ft 0 in
Displacement: 17000 lbs
Ballast: 6800 lbs

Engines
Total Power: 50 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Perkins
Year Built: 1980
Engine Model: 4-108
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 1200
Engine Power: 50 HP


Tanks
Holding Tanks: (15 Gallons)


Accommodations/Layout
Accommodations/Layout: V-berth forward, head next aft. Salon has L-shaped settee to port and straight settee to starboard, and drop-leaf table. U-shaped galley to port; nav station to starboard. Quarterberth to starboard.

AC/heat: Aqua Air reverse cycle 16000 BTU system
Teak/holly cabin sole
Teak interior throughout
New custom mattress in V-berth (2007)
Private head with vanity sink, separate shower stall, & toilet
Dinette seats (6) comfortably
Nav station includes a large chart table with opening top to store instruments, well organized instrument panels, and a swing arm mount for the Raymarine C70 to be viewed from the helm.
Ample storage spaces throughout
6'2" headroom throughout

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My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

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Perfection Presto Ketch 40 (1982)

Asking Price (2016) $24,800

PRESTO design Ketch, shoal draft with centerboard. She was built by Perfection Industries, Fort Lauderdale, FL in 1982 from a design by William Munroe along the lines of his grandfather's famous Presto sailboats. These boats were designed as fast cargo and pleasure boats for the shallow waters of the Keys and Bahamas.

Additional Specs, Equipment and Information:

Specs
Designer: Bill Monroe

Dimensions
Includes Bowsprit
LOA: 40 ft 0 in
Beam: 11 ft 0 in
LWL: 30 ft 0 in
Length on Deck: 36 ft 0 in
Maximum Draft: 2 ft 10 in. (Probably should say MINIMUM draft)
Displacement: 17000 lbs
Ballast: 5000 lbs
Headroom: 6 ft 4 in

Engines
Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Yanmar
Engine Model: 3QM30F
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 400

Cruising Speed: 6 knots @ 1500 RPM

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: 1 Fiberglass (100 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: 1 Aluminum (36 Gallons)
Holding Tanks: 1 (15 Gallons)

Accommodations
Number of heads: 1
I own one of the sister ships to this fine vessel. 2-8" draft BU, 5-6" BD. 9"Wx6"T lead grounding shoe. I've never met a sandbar I didn't like.
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

ODay 31

Steady's Notes
1. This is the first boat of this model I have posted in this thread. I am doing so because it appears to be in very good condition and fits the needs of many people who are looking for a bay and coastal cruising boat that is Asking Price Less than $30K. I see a lot of people join CF looking for some small, inexpensive boat for live aboard. While this boat would not be my choice for a circumnavigation or crossing oceans, it does look like it would be comfortable for marina living on a small boat.

2. I like the swim step stern.

3. This boat looks like a good match for bay sailing and some coastal cruising. Notice that it has a relatively small, low HP Diesel Engine and small tankage for water and fuel.

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Sale Listing Ad

1986 O'Day 31 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Location = Virginia
Asking Price = $22,900

Specs
Builder: O'Day Corp.
Designer: C. Raymond Hunt Associates
Flag of Registry: United States
Keel: Fin
Hull Shape: Displacement

Dimensions
LOA: 30 ft 1 in
LWL: 25 ft 11 in
Maximum Draft: 5 ft 3 in
Displacement: 10100 lbs Dry Load
Ballast: 3800 lbs

Engines
Total Power: 14 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Universal
Year Built: 1986
Engine Model: 14
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Propeller: 2 blade propeller
Drive Type: Direct Drive
Engine Power: 14 HP

Maximum Speed: 7 knots

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: 1 (25 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: 1 (25 Gallons)
Holding Tanks: 1 (15 Gallons)

___________________________________

My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

O'Day 37 CC

Steady's Notes

1. I often see new members on CF asking about a boat that has an aft cabin double berth (for privacy) and at relatively low cost.

2. This boat does have an aft cabin with a double athwartship berth and a private head with shower (hose, not stall).

3. This boat appears to be in very good condition for its age and price point and when compared to others of this age and model I have seen. That is why I am sharing this one here on CF, to illustrate a good example of this model.

4. I got a chuckle when reading the ad for this boat, as the broker wrote "low engine hours" as a key feature of the boat. It has 3,263 hours according to the details on the boat.

5. The details for this boat lists 10 opening ports with 3 hatches. I like opening ports for ventilation.

6. The boat lists with a wind generator, GPS, some electronics, refrigeration, etc. See the details.

7. The boat has nice engine access via a removable panel in the aft cabin.
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Sale Listing Ad
1979 O'Day Center Cockpit Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Location = Fort Myers FL, USA
Asking Price = $22,900
_____________

Specs
Builder: O'Day
Keel: Fin

Dimensions
LOA: 37 ft 0 in
Beam: 11 ft 2 in
Maximum Draft: 5 ft 0 in
Bridge Clearance: 49 ft 0 in
Headroom: 6 ft 4 in

Engines
Total Power: 30 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Westerbeke
Year Built: 1979
Engine Model: 3cyl
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 3263
Propeller: 3 blade propeller
Drive Type: Direct Drive
Engine Power: 30 HP

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: 2 Plastic (75 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: 1 Plastic (28 Gallons)
Holding Tanks: 2 Plastic (15 Gallons)

Dimensions
Model Year: 1979
Length: 37
Beam: 11'2"
Draft: 5 ft
Displacement: 14,000 lbs
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My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Quote:
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O'Day 37 CC

Steady's Notes

1. I often see new members on CF asking about a boat that has an aft cabin double berth (for privacy) and at relatively low cost.

2. This boat does have an aft cabin with a double athwartship berth and a private head with shower (hose, not stall).

3. This boat appears to be in very good condition for its age and price point and when compared to others of this age and model I have seen. That is why I am sharing this one here on CF, to illustrate a good example of this model.

4. I got a chuckle when reading the ad for this boat, as the broker wrote "low engine hours" as a key feature of the boat. It has 3,263 hours according to the details on the boat.

5. The details for this boat lists 10 opening ports with 3 hatches. I like opening ports for ventilation.

6. The boat lists with a wind generator, GPS, some electronics, refrigeration, etc. See the details.

7. The boat has nice engine access via a removable panel in the aft cabin.
_______________

Sale Listing Ad
1979 O'Day Center Cockpit Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Location = Fort Myers FL, USA
Asking Price = $22,900
_____________

Specs
Builder: O'Day
Keel: Fin

Dimensions
LOA: 37 ft 0 in
Beam: 11 ft 2 in
Maximum Draft: 5 ft 0 in
Bridge Clearance: 49 ft 0 in
Headroom: 6 ft 4 in

Engines
Total Power: 30 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Westerbeke
Year Built: 1979
Engine Model: 3cyl
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 3263
Propeller: 3 blade propeller
Drive Type: Direct Drive
Engine Power: 30 HP

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: 2 Plastic (75 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: 1 Plastic (28 Gallons)
Holding Tanks: 2 Plastic (15 Gallons)

Dimensions
Model Year: 1979
Length: 37
Beam: 11'2"
Draft: 5 ft
Displacement: 14,000 lbs
___________________________________

My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
A similar twin, split cabin O'Day is the 32 ft. model, the keel-centerboard version with 3-4" draft.
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Old 02-05-2017, 10:25   #233
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Well, if you are just going to the Bahamas or something like that, here a cheap and roomy ride with long waterline and 3.8 ft draft!
ALLMAND 31 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com
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Sandpiper Sharpie 32

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Steady's Notes

1. This is a boat with a two Free Standing Masts. The masts rotate, which furls the sails.

2. The hull is very shallow draft "Sharpie" design with minimum draft of 2' and one of the photos shows it being launched from a trailer. While this boat design may not appeal to everyone, and it is not intended for offshore passages, it is designed for local conditions that dictate a shallow draft boat. Sharpies can be found in Long Island Sound and the Chesapeake, where a shallow draft boat allows access or use from some shore properties where shoaling or shallow water exists. This would also be useful in the Florida Panhandle, Houston (Galveston Bay), Biscayne Bay in Miami, or some lakes or possibly the Gulf side of the Florida Keys. I used to live on a salt marsh on Hilton Head Island, and this boat could have been launched from my home there. It is designed for places where shallow water is common. The fact this boat can be trailered (and apparently easily launched, since it does not have a keel) makes it transportable to many locations.

3. This boat appears to be in very nice condition. I like the use of wood in the interior. It has a Diesel engine.

4. I find boats like this interesting from a design aspect. The goal was to create boat that can operate in very shallow waters. The use of Free Standing Masts is also something I find interesting. This particular boat has ROTATING masts, for furling the sails.

5. This boat features a nice large cockpit, a private marine head, and a galley comparable to most other 32 foot boats with a two burner stove, sink, and icebox. There are more photos of these on the ad, via the link below.

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Sale Listing Ad (May 2017)

1978 Marine Innovators 32 Sandpiper Sharpie Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Location = Greenport NY, USA
Asking Price = $25,000

Dimensions
Beam: 8 ft 0 in
Minimum Draft: 2 ft 0 in

Engines
Total Power: 12 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Yanmar
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Power: 12 HP


Description from Ad
1978 32' Marine Innovators Sandpiper Sharpie Schooner

Stored inside at our facility!

Yanmar 12HP Diesel

Presto type shoal draft sailboat. Sails on rotating masts, wishbone booms, 2 bilge boards are housed beneath bunks.

Designed and built by Walt Scott in Clearwater, Fla.

Sleeps 4. Head fwd w/sink. 2 berths to port, 2 to stbd. Galley aft w/SS sink & icechest to stbd. 2 burner alcohol stove to stbd. Dinette table, all opening portholes replaced.

Cockpit has cushions & bimini top, Standard VHF Radio, Seafarer depth finder, battery charger, dockside power, DC & AC charger for phones and accessories, two self-tailing winches.

New in August 2016: Anderson self tailing winches, Raymarine auto pilot and new depth gauge.

Very well maintained original owner boat with many updates.
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My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

S2 11.0 (36 ft) Aft Cockpit
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Steady's Notes

1. I have posted another boat of this model before. There were some minor differences. I like the interior layout and finish for this type of boat and size and price point.

2. I am posting this one because I want to include the list of things (Updates and Improvements) that the ad says have been done to the boat (refit) as it may help others see how many small items may need to be fixed or repaired on ANY boat they purchase that is used, especially if the boat is more than 10 years old. That list of items may help a buyer look at this boat and at others too, that may need similar maintenance.

3. There are two versions and some variations on engine types. A = Aft Cabin. (The S2 11.0 C is a center cockpit version.)
Shoal draft version: 4.67'/1.42m.
Delivered with Universal, Volvo, or Yanmar engines.

4. This boat layout has a Quarter Berth and Navigation Station (you sit on the quarter berth while at the Nav table).

5. I like the layout for the galley. Look for more images online to see the layout (as the ad only has one photo that does not show the sink location).

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Sale Listing Ad (May 2017)

1984 36 S-2 11.0A Aft Cockpit Sloop Sail Boat For Sale -
Location = St. Petersburg FL, USA
Asking Price = $25,000

Specs
Keel: Fin

Hull Type: Fin w/spade rudder
Rig Type: Masthead Sloop
LOA: 36.00' / 10.97m LWL: 28.25' / 8.61m
Beam: 11.92' / 3.63m
Listed SA: 625 ft2 / 58.06 m2
Draft (max.) 5.50' / 1.68m Draft (min.)
Displacement: 15000 lbs./ 6804 kgs.
Ballast: 6000 lbs. / 2722 kgs.
Sail Area/Disp.1: 16.50
Bal./Disp.: 40.01%
Disp./Len.: 297.02
Designer: Arthur Edmunds
Builder: S2 Yachts
Construction: FG/balsa cored deck Bal. type: Lead
First Built: 1977 Last Built: 1987 # Built: 156

Engines
Total Power: 27 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Yanmar
Engine Model: 3HMF
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Power: 27 HP


Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: (80 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: (50 Gallons)


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Updates and Improvements

The following is copied from the ad:
All of the Fixed Port windows have been replaced and do not leak.

The vinyl headliner has been replaced with fabric covered removable panels allowing access to deck hardware mounting plates

Original aluminum backing plates replaced with heavier gauge aluminum tank

Original Diesel Fuel Tank Replaced with heavier aluminum tank

Original Water Tank Replaced w/ custom make plastic tanks

Mast Rewired (Conduit installed & Wiring secured in conduit)

Original Battery Trays Replaced with Fiberglass Reinforced Marine Plywood trays

New Smart Charger Battery Charger

New Hot Water Tank

Sound Proofing installed in about 2/3rds of the Engine Compartment

New Cushions and Covers in the Main Saloon

Many other smaller upgrades and improvements made

15,000 BTU Reverse Cycle Marine A/C Heat unit installed (about 10 years go)

All pressurized Water Plumbing Replaced 2016

Stern Light Replaced w/ LED Light 2016

Battery Watering System 2016

New Tricolor-w/Strobe mounted on Mast and wired to foot of mast but not connected
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My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Moody 34CC

Steady's Notes

1. The Moody 34CC has a nice interior and layout for its size. I like it. The design of a 34 foot center cockpit boat requires some careful use of scale and features to fit in an aft cabin into a boat that is under 35 feet LOA.

2. Nice use of wood in the interior. The interior looks nicer than some Center Cockpit boats I have seen from US brands that are this size.

3. Note that this boat has a walkthrough passage to the aft cabin with double berth.

4. Boat has a single head, located near the ladder from the Center Cockpit.

5. This ad does not have the best photos I have seen for this model of boat. You could get a better idea of this model's use of space and finnish if you look at sister boats online. The photos of this particular boat are OK, and the boat appears to be in good, clean condition, but the photos don't show the boat features as well as others I have seen.

6. The boat is built in the UK and comes with a Lloyd's Certificate. It also comes with a Thornycroft Diesel engine.

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Sale Listing Ad (May 2017)
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1984.../United-States

Year = 1984
Location = New Bern, NC, USA
Asking Price = $25,500
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Description from the Ad

Keel: Fin

Dimensions
LOA: 34 ft 0 in
Beam: 11 ft 8 in
Maximum Draft: 4 ft 11 in
Displacement: 11200 lbs
Ballast: 4600 lbs
Headroom: 6 ft 2 in

Engines
Total Power: 35 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Thornycroft
Year Built: 1984
Engine Model: T90
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Propeller: 2 blade propeller
Drive Type: Direct Drive
Engine Power: 35 HP

Cruising Speed: 6 knots
Maximum Speed: 7 knots

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: (72 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: (40 Gallons)

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My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Creekmore 46 (LOA 52) Cutter

Steady's Notes

This boat recently caught my eye. I like what I see in it. There are numerous things I would add to a boat or modify if I found another used boat that did not have these features or gear. In my opinion, this is a "Lot of boat at a very good price." One of the things I look for in any boat is the condition of the boat. I rarely look at "project" boats, and avoid posting them on CF. However, in THIS boat's case, I make an exception because I think this boat could represent an outstanding opportunity for a family looking for a bigger boat that has new or almost new systems (engine, interior, etc.). Looking over the boat these things caught my interest (I like them):

1. This type of boat was apparently sold as an "unfinished hull" so a buyer could finish the boats. I looked at a couple of these, and this is by far the best finished interior and deck that I have seen. The owner of this boat obviously spent a lot of money on putting this one together. I like the relatively shallow draft (5' 6") and that the 60 foot mast would allow travel up the ICW. The model is listed as a Creekmore 46, but with the bowsprit the LOA is 52'

2. I like the deck finish (Treadmaster) and deck hardware (multiple Dorades, protective bars, good hatches, arch, hard windscreen, etc.). I like the hardware too: air conditioning, electric windlass, refrigerator, deep freeze, etc.

3. I like the interior. The wood furniture (cabinetry) looks like it is new and I like the finish and design use in the cabins.

4. I like that it has an arch with two wind generators. I would add solar.

5. I like that the Yanmar engine is of good size HP and is almost unused (very low hours). 82 original hours with twin Racors.

6. The ad says the owner has spent $500K on the boat and that it is almost finished, with a need to finish the cabin sole (no big problem for me) and it needs mattresses and settee cushions (something I would replace in any used boat). And some minor finish work in the interior, something I would not mind doing. Of course if that much work has been done, there should be good records and receipts for you to see. In any case, a good professional yacht survey should be able to determine what needs to be done.

7. The deck has 6 close able Dorades with SS protection bars, 17 SS opening port windows, 3 overhead hatches. This should provide excellent ventilation.

8. All the hand rails are stainless steel so there is no exterior wood to maintain.

9. 2 heads with showers, 2 private staterooms PLUS two Pilot Berths in the Saloon. This would make this a good boat or a family that has two parents and four children.

10. NOTE! This boat has been listed for sale since June 2016 at this same asking price ($119K). Here is the other ad I found for this same boat.
http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/58543
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Sale Listing Ad May 2017

2002 Creekmore Full Keel Cutter Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Location = Pompano Beach FL, USA
Asking Price = $119,000
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Specifications

Designer: Ray Creekmore
Flag of Registry: United States
Keel: Full
Hull Shape: Displacement

Dimensions
LOA: 52 ft 0 in
Beam: 13 ft 0 in
LWL: 34 ft 6 in
Length on Deck: 46 ft 0 in
Maximum Draft: 5 ft 6 in
Displacement: 36000 lbs Dry Load
Ballast: 16000 lbs
Bridge Clearance: 60 ft 0 in
Headroom: 6 ft 3 in

Engines
Total Power: 54 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Yanmar
Engine Model: 4JH 3 TE
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 95
Propeller: 3 blade propeller
Drive Type: Direct Drive
Engine Power: 54 HP

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My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Tartan 37
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Steady's Notes

1. The Tartan 37 is one of my favorite boats for this size and class. I like many things about it.

2. This boat model is one I may post a few times in this thread as I come across examples worth noting.

3. This particular boat (linked below) has been reduced in price. I found it originally listed with an Asking Price of $45,000 on the Tartan owners' site.
Tartan 37 Sales Floor

It is now listed for just $27,500.

4. While this boat's ad photos show some stains on the settee cushions and I noticed the ad said some of the canvas needs replacement (Bimini, sail cover, dodger), those are things I would expect to replace or repair on most boats if the canvas is older.

5. There is a very good detailed review of this boat model found at Practical Sailor. https://www.practical-sailor.com/iss...7_11600-1.html

6. This is a Keel/Centerboard design with variable draft. With the board up, it is shallow draft of 4.17 feet.

7. Some of the photos shown below may be from sister boats.
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Current Sale Ad Listing

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/6086536125.html

Location = Portsmouth, Virginia, USA
Asking Price = $27,500

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Photos Used for Illustrative Purposes

The photos I used in this profile are for ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES and come from a mix of boats (not necessarily the boat in the example sale listed or linked above). I use these photos to show exemplary condition of the boat design, so one can compare to what is on the market.
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Specifications
(standard specs from the boat model, this boat may differ)

Hull Type: Keel/CB & spade rudder Rig Type: Masthead Sloop
LOA: 37.29' / 11.37m LWL: 28.50' / 8.69m
Beam: 11.75' / 3.58m Listed SA: 625 ft2 / 58.06 m2
Draft (max.) 7.75' / 2.36m Draft (min.) 4.17' / 1.27m
Displacement: 15500 lbs./ 7031 kgs. Ballast: 7500 lbs. / 3402 kgs.
Sail Area/Disp.1: 16.14 Bal./Disp.: 48.39% Disp./Len.: 298.92
Designer: Sparkman & Stephens
Builder: Tartan Marine (USA)
Construction: FG w/balsa cored deck Bal. type: Lead
First Built: 1976 Last Built: 1989 # Built: 486
AUXILIARY POWER (orig. equip.)
Make: Westerbeke Model: 50
Type: Diesel HP: 41
TANKS
Water: 90 gals. / 341 ltrs. Fuel: 50 gals. / 189 ltrs.
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My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Old 11-05-2017, 17:01   #239
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Tartan 37
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Steady's Notes

1. The Tartan 37 is one of my favorite boats for this size and class. I like many things about it.

2. This boat model is one I may post a few times in this thread as I come across examples worth noting.

3. This particular boat (linked below) is the lowest priced Tartan 37 I have seen so far. To compare, look at Yachtworld listings or visit the Tartan owners' group site:
Tartan 37 Sales Floor

It is now listed for just $24,990.

4. Read the sale ad itself for details. This profile is to show this type of boat and a recent find. Some of the photos and data in this profile on CF may not match the listed boat, and are used for illustration of this boat model.

5. There is a very good detailed review of this boat model found at Practical Sailor. https://www.practical-sailor.com/iss...7_11600-1.html

6. This is a Keel/Centerboard design with variable draft. With the board up, it is shallow draft of 4.17 feet.

7. Some of the photos shown below may be from sister boats.
_________________

Current Sale Ad Listing

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/6086536631.html

Location = Portsmouth, Virginia, USA
Asking Price = $24,990

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Photos Used for Illustrative Purposes

The photos I used in this profile are for ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES and may come from a mix of boats (not necessarily the boat in the example sale listed or linked above). I use these photos to show exemplary condition of the boat design, so one can compare to what is on the market.

ALL of the photos in this post are from the listed boat!
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Specifications
(standard specs from the boat model, this boat may differ)

Hull Type: Keel/CB & spade rudder Rig Type: Masthead Sloop
LOA: 37.29' / 11.37m LWL: 28.50' / 8.69m
Beam: 11.75' / 3.58m Listed SA: 625 ft2 / 58.06 m2
Draft (max.) 7.75' / 2.36m Draft (min.) 4.17' / 1.27m
Displacement: 15500 lbs./ 7031 kgs. Ballast: 7500 lbs. / 3402 kgs.
Sail Area/Disp.1: 16.14 Bal./Disp.: 48.39% Disp./Len.: 298.92
Designer: Sparkman & Stephens
Builder: Tartan Marine (USA)
Construction: FG w/balsa cored deck Bal. type: Lead
First Built: 1976 Last Built: 1989 # Built: 486
AUXILIARY POWER (orig. equip.)
Make: Westerbeke Model: 50
Type: Diesel HP: 41
TANKS
Water: 90 gals. / 341 ltrs. Fuel: 50 gals. / 189 ltrs.
___________________________________

My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Old 11-05-2017, 17:50   #240
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Tartan 37
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Steady's Notes

1. The Tartan 37 is one of my favorite boats for this size and class. I like many things about it.

2. This boat model is one I may post a few times in this thread as I come across examples worth noting.

3. This particular boat (linked below) is the BEST CONDITION Tartan 37 I have seen so far at this price level.

To compare, look at Yachtworld listings or visit the Tartan owners' group site:
Tartan 37 Sales Floor

It is now listed for just $29,900.

Compared to a few other Tartan 37s on the market at about that price, I think this particular one has some nice upgrades and looks particularly "fresh" and clean and well maintained. I also like the light blue Awlgrip paint color.

4. Read the sale ad itself for details. This profile is to show this type of boat and a recent find. Some of the photos and data in this profile on CF may not match the listed boat, and are used for illustration of this boat model.

5. There is a very good detailed review of this boat model found at Practical Sailor. https://www.practical-sailor.com/iss...7_11600-1.html

6. This is a Keel/Centerboard design with variable draft. With the board up, it is shallow draft of 4.17 feet.

7. Some of the photos shown below may be from sister boats.
_________________

Current Sale Ad Listing

1979 Tartan 37 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Location = Mattapoisett, Massachusetts, USA

Asking Price = $29,900

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Description of Recent Maintenance and Upgrades on THIS Boat (from ad)
Recent Updates/Upgrades
New main halyard (2016)
New sanitation hose and Y-valves for head/holding tank discharge system (2016)
New centerboard pennant (2015)
New Lofrans electric windlass and chain (2013)
4 new gold cart batteries for house system (2013)
New Magma grill (2013)
New bimini and frame (2012)
Replaced and upgraded dodger (2012)
New interior cushions (2012)
New cockpit cushions (2012)
New custom fitted sheets for V-berth, quarter berth and pilot berth (2012)
New sail cover (2012)
Addition of 12VDC fuel pump (2011)
Replaced hot water heater with SS Johnson unit (2011)

Upgrades in Last 10yrs
Replacement of forward and mid-ship hatches with Lewmar hatches
Upgrade of Sea Frost engine drive refrigeration
Mast re-wired
Main and head sail approx 12-15yrs old
Misc interior lights
______________________

Photos Used for Illustrative Purposes

The photos I used in this profile are for ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES and may come from a mix of boats (not necessarily the boat in the example sale listed or linked above). I use these photos to show exemplary condition of the boat design, so one can compare to what is on the market.

ALL of the photos in this post are from the listed boat!
____________________

Specifications
(standard specs from the boat model, this boat may differ)

Hull Type: Keel/CB & spade rudder Rig Type: Masthead Sloop
LOA: 37.29' / 11.37m LWL: 28.50' / 8.69m
Beam: 11.75' / 3.58m Listed SA: 625 ft2 / 58.06 m2
Draft (max.) 7.75' / 2.36m Draft (min.) 4.17' / 1.27m
Displacement: 15500 lbs./ 7031 kgs. Ballast: 7500 lbs. / 3402 kgs.
Sail Area/Disp.1: 16.14 Bal./Disp.: 48.39% Disp./Len.: 298.92
Designer: Sparkman & Stephens
Builder: Tartan Marine (USA)
Construction: FG w/balsa cored deck Bal. type: Lead
First Built: 1976 Last Built: 1989 # Built: 486
AUXILIARY POWER (orig. equip.)
Make: Westerbeke Model: 50
Type: Diesel HP: 41
TANKS
Water: 90 gals. / 341 ltrs. Fuel: 50 gals. / 189 ltrs.
___________________________________

My Disclaimers and Requests

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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