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Old 13-11-2016, 12:56   #196
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

There is a wise saying about sailboats:

"It is not the age of the boat that matters most, it is the condition that matters most."

Keeping in mind that wisdom, when I am looking at boats I look for style, design, asking price, location, features, and most important of all, condition.

You Know that it is easy to see older boats that are neglected and have deferred maintenance. The smart boat shopper will look for a boat in very good condition, and will be willing to pay more than average for that boat, because a boat in very good to excellent maintenance condition, regardless of age, is one that is very likely going to cost less to own in the long run.

Here is a boat that appears to fit the description of "Well Maintained."

I saw this boat and was impressed by the condition shown in the photos. It looks outstanding, and so I am including it here in this thread about Outstanding Boats.

Aside from condition, this is also a boat that will likely please many sailors who may be looking for a comfortable boat for coastal cruising and possibly live-aboard. The interior of this boat looks especially nice, and with the large deadlights (windows) in the cabin, it offers lots of light and views.

But, there is more to it than just pretty cushions and nicely maintained teak wood interior. I was also struck by the clean and orderly anchor locker and the hidden systems areas too. Very nicely kept and exceptionally clean. That is a good sign. To see what I mean, go see the photos on the sale listing. There are several that show how well kept this boat appears to be. I will post just a few below, but there are more on the listing.
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CAL 35

Model Year = 1975
Asking Price = $34,900
Location = Southern California

Sale Listing:
1975 CAL 35 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com


Additional Specs, Equipment and Information:

Specs
Keel: Full

Dimensions
LOA: 35 ft 11 in
Beam: 11 ft 0 in
LWL: 28 ft 9 in
Maximum Draft: 4 ft 8 in
Displacement: 15000 lbs Dry Load
Ballast: 5000 lbs

Engines
Total Power: 50 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Perkins
Year Built: 1975
Engine Model: 4-107
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Propeller: Folding propeller
Drive Type: V Drive
Engine Power: 50 HP

Cruising Speed: 7 knots
Maximum Speed: 8 knots

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: 2 Plastic (110 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: 2 Aluminum (66 Gallons)
Holding Tanks: 1 Plastic (18 Gallons)

Accommodations
Number of single berths: 1
Number of double berths: 2
Number of cabins: 2
Number of heads: 1
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Old 17-11-2016, 18:01   #197
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Pearson 35. 1979

Asking Price = $25,500
Location = Maine

Recent Sale Listing = 1979 Pearson centerboard Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com


Kee/Centerboard boat, Shallow Draft

Additional Specs, Equipment and Information:

Keel: Centerboard

Dimensions, etc.
LOA: 35';
LWL: 25';
Beam: 10';
Displacement: 13000 lbs;
Draft: 3' 9"; Board UP
Ballast: 5,400

Engine: Westerbeke, HP 25, Model 4 cylinder

Tankage: Fuel: 18 gallons; Water: 75 gallons; Holding Tank

Builder: Pearson Yachts
Designer: Bill Shaw
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Steady's NOTES:

There were 515 of these boats built, with few changes made to the design.

Sale Listing says engine was rebuilt a few years ago (1999) and has 1800 hours on it and some sails were bought in 2000.

According to Sailboatdata.com:
From 1968-1982 the PEARSON 35 remained relatively unchanged and had the longest production run of any other Pearson model.
Diesel power available as an option as was a yawl rig.
A number of different power plants were used including Farymann, Westerbeke, and Yanmar.
Not the same as a much later PEARSON 35 (1997?) which is very similar to the PEARSON 34-2 and of which few were built.
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

1999 St. Valery-Devlin/Bolger Sharpie

Belle was built in 1999 at the renowned boatyard of Devlin Designing Boat Builders (devlinboats.com) to the design of the late Phil Bolger for a knowledgeable owner who fell in love with the design. According to Sam Devlin, to build this boat again at his yard would cost well over $120,000!

Phil Bolger was renowned for his Sharpie designs, and Belle, to the best of our knowledge, was the only Bolger designed St. Valery Schooner that was ever built. As is typical with Sharpies, Belle is shoal draft and water ballasted. This makes her a very practical boat to explore the Puget Sound and anywhere else where you might encounter shoal waters or tidal areas. Also, it's makes her a very easy boat to trailer to distant locations or store during our long winters. The epoxy/wood composite construction (stitch and glue) gives Belle the beauty and charm of a wooden boat with the durability and low maintenance of fiberglass. Truly the best of both worlds.

The lug rig makes her a delightful boat to sail and the 10 hp Honda engine moves her along like a little trawler. She sleeps four (two comfortably) and makes a cozy little retreat when the weather turns cooler. With kerosene lamps and an almost new Wallas heater/stove, she is comfortable below in any weather.

The current owners have cruised her for almost ten years now throughout the Puget Sound and Southern California, where they have cruised extensively in the Channel Islands and down to San Diego where they kept her for several years.

Alas, having loved her for ten years, the current owners have moved up to a much larger boat in the Caribbean and have decided to sell her. She has been meticulously mantained at the Devlin yard and is truly both an extremely practical fun little cruiser and a work of art.


Specifications:
26ft 10in (L.O.A.)
25ft 4in (L.O.D.)
25ft (L.W.L)
Beam: 7ft
Draft: 18in board up, 3ft 2in board down
Displacement: 3,800 lb dry 5000 lb. with water ballast
Engine: Honda 9.9 long-shaft electric start
10hp outboard gas fuel
Hull type: Sharpie, water ballasted
Rig: Lug Rigged Schooner
Sail area: 250 sq ft (approximate)
Year built: 1999
Hull Identification Number (HIN): XDK22341H999
Construction: BS 1088 Marine plywood, wood epoxy composite Construction
(stitch and glue)
Max speed: 7 knots
Cruising speed: 6 knots
Designer: Phil Bolger
Builder: Devlin Designing Boat Builders

Electronics:
ICOM - VHF handheld radio
2 Optima AGM 55amp batteries
Deltran Battery Tender Plus - battery charger
Raymarine ST1000 Plus Tiller Auto-Pilot
Garmin GPS - GPSMAP 76CSx
Polar Vision hand-held digital sonar depth sounder
NICRO solar-powered ventilation system
Richie compass
12V battery meter
3 - 12V outlets

Safety:
All Coast Guard required safety gear including:
2 life-jackets
2 throwable cushions
Halon fire extinguisher
Orion flare kit
Signaling horn
Battery operated and kerosene running lights


Sails:
Both lug rigged sails are in excellent condition
Both main and foresail have tan sail covers

Dodger:
Iverson - custom dodger to match tan sail covers

Galley:
Dometic CoolFreeze freezer - 12V/ 110V refrigerator/ freezer
Wallas kerosene cabin heater/ stove - exhausted overboard for safe use
Dishes and Cutlery
Stainless steel pots and pans

Features:
2 matching Sunbrella bean bag chairs
3 Sunbrella deck cushions
2 bronze kerosene lamps
Port-a-Potty (never used)
Sun Shower
Stainless steel swim ladder
High Capacity Solar Panel
Tiller steering - varnished wood
Varnished teak cap-rails
Varnished Ironwood rub-rails
Teak bowsprit
Rudder pulls up for shoal water operation and beaching
Centerboard
Unstayed masts are easily raised and lowered by two people

Tanks:
Fuel - 12 gallons
Water - portable 12 1/2 gallons

Anchoring Gear:
Main anchor - 25# Delta anchor w/ 80' chain & 100' rode
2nd anchor - 20# Danforth type w/ 25' chain & 100' rode

Accommodations:
Dinette with custom teak removable table, also serves as two fine sea berths. It easily converts into athwart ship double berth, for mor intimate accommodations. Galley and chart tables amidship, and aft are two more berths. Belle is equipped with quality, like-new cushions throughout and custom curtains.

Tender:
8' Nordic inflatable with oars (in good condition)

Trailer:
Galvanized tandem axle King Saltwater trailer (has never been wet)

https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/boa/5853696886.html
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Tartan 37 Centerboard

The Tartan 37 is a popular boat with a good reputation for nice sailing characteristics and good quality construction. About 480 units were built.

There is a good owners association or group: Page Title

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New Listing
1977 Model
Asking Price = $27,900
Location = Florida

1977 Tartan CB Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Additional Specs, Equipment and Information:

Specs
Builder: Tartan
Designer: Sparkman Stephens
Keel: Centerboard

Dimensions
LOA: 37 ft 3 in
Beam: 11 ft 9 in
LWL: 29 ft 5 in
Minimum Draft: 4 ft 2 in
Maximum Draft: 7 ft 6 in
Displacement: 17500 lbs
Ballast: 7500 lbs
Bridge Clearance: 53 ft 0 in

Engines
Total Power: 50 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Perkins
Year Built: 1993
Engine Model: 4-108 FWC
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 2700
Engine Power: 50 HP

Cruising Speed: 6 mph @ 2100 RPM
Maximum Speed: 7 mph

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: Plastic (90 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: Aluminum (50 Gallons)
Holding Tanks: Plastic (15 Gallons)
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Endeavour 37 "B" Plan

1980 sloop
"B Plan" is a traditional layout with quarter berth.

Asking Price = $29,900
Location = St. Augustine FL

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1980...w#.WDgbz7ROKhD
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The Endeavour 37 is a boat I would like for a comfortable shallow draft cruiser for Florida or coastal cruising. It is relatively roomy and would make a nice liveaboard boat.

Is it a "Blue Water Boat?"
That is debatable. But, I have sailed 2,500 miles from Hawaii to California on an Endeavour 37 (A Plan) and found it to be comfortable sailing with a nice interior and a very large cockpit, with long flat cockpit seats on which you could sleep. Despite sailing in a gale on that voyage, I never felt unsafe in the boat. If asked to take a similar voyage on a similar boat (that is well prepped for long distance voyaging) I would go again.

One feature I like on the Endeavour 37 is the multiple (10!) opening portlights and three deck hatches, which are there to give good ventilation such as in Florida and Caribbean (for which this boat was designed). I think this is an important feature for hot weather cruising locations. Not many cruisers of this size have as many opening portlights.

The galley is better than on some boats. There is a full size nav table. The head is nice size. The Endeavours typically had teak parquet floor or sole panels.

Noteworthy on the Endeavour boats is the extensive use of teak wood in the interior. It is better than on many other boats of this age.
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Condition of This Boat?

I have looked at many Endeavour 37 boats online, and this one appears to be in much better than average condition (from the photos). It looks clean and well kept. The interior and exterior appears to be in very good condition compared to others of this age. As with any online sale listing, we can only see what is shown in the photos, so, Buyer Beware always applies. But, after looking at so many of this particular model and similar age, I think this one looks very good.
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Additional Specs, Equipment and Information:
Specs
Keel: Full

Dimensions
LOA: 37 ft 6 in
Draft = 4.5'
Beam: 11 ft 7 in
LWL: 30 ft 0 in
Ballast: 8000 lbs
Bridge Clearance: 46 ft 0 in

Engines
Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Perkins
Year Built: 1980
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel


Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: Aluminum (100 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: (55 Gallons)
Holding Tanks: Plastic (12 Gallons)
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Noteworthy Updates
(from the sale listing)

See the sale listing "Details" tab for more about how this boat has been updated recently. Here are a few items from a longer list:

Bottom Job - 2014
New Toilet - 2015
New Refrigerator - 2016
New Water Pump - 2016
New Batteries - 2016
New Backstay - 2016
New Shrouds - 2016
New Zincs - 2016
New Shore Power Cord - 2016
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Watkins 36 Center Cockpit

Year = 1981
Asking Price = $29,900. (New listing today)

Location = Treasure Island FL
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1981...w#.WDgbw7ROKhB
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Additional Specs, Equipment and Information:

Specs
Keel: Full

Dimensions
LOA: 36 ft 0 in
Beam: 10 ft 5 in
LWL: 29 ft 4 in
Minimum Draft: 4 ft 5 in
Ballast: 6000 lbs
Bridge Clearance: 46 ft 0 in
Dry Weight: 17000 lbs

Engines
Total Power: 50 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Perkins
Year Built: 1981
Engine Model: 4-108
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Drive Type: Direct Drive
Engine Power: 50 HP

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: 1 (85 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: 1 (40 Gallons)
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Blue Moon Yawl 24' WOOD

Tom Gilmer design.

Here is a link to a cute pocket cruiser (24') I just profiled in a sister thread (Outstanding Boats) here on CF. There is much more information and more photos via the link below.

As a "pocket cruiser" it does have some limitations due to size. There is no standing headroom. There is no enclosed head. The berths and interior are relatively spartan. But, for some sailors (lovers of wood boats, trailer sailors, lovers of gaff rigged boats, lovers of simplicity) this boat may be appealing and offer something not found in more common production plastic boats.

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2265499

Shallow Draft: This boat has a 4' draft and LOA 24 feet.
Asking Price = $5,000 firm.


It is a wood boat, and that does cause some need for special care and maintenance. But, it is a wood boat, and that offers a wood boat lover something priceless too.

Take a look! I think it looks Outstanding.
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Kadey Krogen 38
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NOTE! There is another post about this boat model in a sister thread and that post includes twice as many photos (24 instead of just 6). Here is a link to that thread:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2271642

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Lowest Price Boat Listed

1986
Asking Price = $30,000 . Lowest Price I have ever seen for this model boat.
Location = Charleston SC

New Listing (December 2, 2016)
1986 Kadey Krogen 38 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
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Comparable Boat Listing:

1992 Kadey Krogen 38 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Asking Price = $114,900
Location = Charleston SC
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Steady's Notes:

If any CF member has a Kadey Krogen 38, I would very much like to go for a sail on one. Why? It is a boat I admire. Please let me know via a PM and as I am traveling the USA ports in 2017 looking at boats, I may be in your area. I am not in the market to buy one this year, but I would like to sail on one, if you need crew or for a day sail.

The Kadey Krogen 38 Cutter is a boat I have admired for several reasons:

Shallow Draft with Dual Centerboards (minimum draft = 3' 2")

Flush Deck (or Raised Deck)
Design for maximum headroom inside saloon, and a nice deck for storing a hard dinghy or nesting dinghy (my preference).

Traditional styling (Decorative details such as trailboards on the bow, a bowsprit, etc.)

Large Cockpit and large Lazarette lockers for storing cruising gear.

Unusual interior layout with athwartship double in aft stateroom, nice for living on the hook.

Traditional styling in the interior, with wood and a comfortable looking salon and galley.

This design was admired by Robert Perry, a naval architect whose own designs have a wide following and whose judgement many respect. I don't always agree with his views, but I found his remarks about this boat design particularly interesting (see below).
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NOTE: As in earlier posts, I am posting a mix of photos from a mix of boats to illustrate this model. There may be differences in boats from one year to another. The photos I post are to be used to get a general idea of the boat model and type. As with all boat buying: Caveat Emptor!
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Sail Magazine Review (Best Review)
http://www.kadeykrogen.com/articles/...mayarticle.htm
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Robert Perry Review of the Kadey Krogen 38
http://www.kadeykrogen.com/articles/...ftingtable.htm

"There is nothing better than a flush deck to set off a handsome hull."
"This is a very interesting design"

"James S. Krogen designed this yacht for himself and is presently having it built in Taiwan. Those of you who have followed yacht design over the years will be well acquainted with the work of Mr. Krogen. His designs have always been amongst my favorites."

"If this design did not have tandem centerboards I might worry about weather helm, but the boards will take care of that. The sail area to displacement ratio is generous at 17.5, indicating to me that Mr. Krogen likes to sail fast. The low aspect ratio configuration of this rig will make it quick on a reach, the one point of sail where the staysail can really do some work. The benefit of this rather large rig is that it will enable the boat to move well in light air without the need for genoas bigger than 130 percent. "
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Review on Jordan Yachts (a good review to read)
Kadey Krogen 38 Review: Tandem Centerboard Gunkholer - Waves Jordan Yacht Brokerage
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Additional Specs, Equipment and Information:

Specs
Keel: Centerboard. (Dual Centerboards)

Dimensions
LOA: 38 ft 2 in
Beam: 12 ft 8 in
Minimum Draft: 3 ft 2 in
Maximum Draft: 6 ft 8 in
Displacement: 24000 lbs
Ballast: 7000 lbs

Engines
Total Power: 46 HP

Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Westerbeke
Engine Model: W46
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 3623
Engine Power: 46 HP

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: (140 Gallons)
Fuel Tanks: (80 Gallons)
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Old 30-12-2016, 06:58   #206
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Here is a herreshof fiberglass hull for very little money, and actually looks in good shape:
http://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/5937450966.html
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

QUOTE=brownoarsman;2290478]Here is a herreshof fiberglass hull for very little money, and actually looks in good shape:
37' Herreshoff-Meadowlark Sailboat[/QUOTE]

This has always been one of my favorite LFH designs. There have been a bunch of these built over the years & if faithful to the original design they are beautiful seaworthy boats.
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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Jouet 1040 MS 36' Motorsailor

LOA = 36 feet
Draft = 5 feet
Year = 1981
Location = Clear Lake Shores Texas (Houston area) 77565 zip
Asking Price = $13,500
Condition = See sale listing info
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Steady's Notes:
This particular boat caught my eye because it is a pilothouse motorsailor I had not seen before. It has a nice inside steering position. While I don't know more about this boat, it does seem to resemble or probably was designed to compete with somewhat similar Southerly boat about the same size. I happen to like a pilothouse boat, and consider an inside steering position to be a plus for a boat, especially if one intends to use the boat in cold water locations (e.g. PNW).

As I have written before: I have NO financial connection to this seller. I am simply sharing this info on a boat I find interesting that may appeal to CF Members who are looking for a boat in this price range (Less than $30K).
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The following text is from the Sale Listing:

The Jouet model 10.4 is a French built Motorsailer
with a 2008 Volvo 40 HP Saildrive system! 480 hrs
Boat has 110% Jib, (new and still in makers bag) a Mainsail in good condition and a Blooper.
A 4200 Garmin ChartPlotter, Raytheon Radar, AutoPilot, VHF Radio, and Depth Recorder are on board!
Helmsman seat below with steering and all engine controls as well as pedestal steering on deck!
Below decks are very roomy with an 11 foot beam! Forward is a large Vee berth with lockers and connecting privacy door
to the head.
A settee with shelves and lockers are to port directly accross from main entrance to the head!
The inside Steering Station is to starboard with Navigation Table and shelving against the hull.
The Galley runs along the port side with Fridge, Double Sinks, LP Stove with Oven.
Across from the Galley on the starboard side is a large circular setee with a table (seats 6-8) with shelving behind and storage below.
A very large quarter berth is on the port side/aft with a sink, hanging locker, small locker at sink and plenty storage beneath the bunk!
A mermaid combination A/C and Heater is near the steering station and performs well!
The companionway starts here to the cockpit with roomy seating.
The starboard side of the cockpit incorporates a large "step down locker"
with workbench and storage running to transom area of the boat!
A removeable panel in this locker provides access to starboard side of the engine (Filters, Engine, Tranny).
When accessing the engine compartment via the deck hatch and removeable panel
you have comfortable access to all parts of the engine unlike any other boat!
A large bimini frame covers the roomy cockpit, dodger provides from forward cockpit to hatch
and a stepdown transom provide access to the water with a teak platform and ladder for entry/exit!
Contact for more details!
***210-716-8900***
bloemer65@gmail.com
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50' Twin Keel Monohull

You might ask, how could I introduce a monohull description with a multihull symbol? Well, my monohull had twin keels. While I was working on the original aft-rig concept, I was also intrigued with the idea of homogenizing Bruce King's very successful twin daggerboard, SORC race boat design with the British twin keel cruising boat concepts. The 50' world cruiser,"Bluebird of Thorne", became my base model. I drew up my idea of a real blue water cruising monohull which made use of my mast-aft sailing rig. The twin keels offered the similar shallow draft exploration features of the multihulls, and the vessel could be beached in remote areas for cleaning the bottom and/or work on the prop, rudder, thru-hulls, etc.


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Re: Boats with Shallow Draft for Florida, Bahamas, Chesapeake

Did you find a shoal draft boat? I have a nice Hunter 41DS with 5 ft draft. She is berthed in Port Royal SC, on the ICW. Asking $155,000.00...
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