Hi PAROTHEAD.
Thanks for adding a boat to the mix for discussion.
I followed that link and read the description (See below) and looked at each
photo.
I don't want to discourage you if that is the kind of boat you want, but I also have a different opinion about that particular boat.
Remember, I do like the
Endeavour 37 ("A" plan especially) and have recommended it as a noteworthy model up above in this thread. So, my comments are about that particular boat in that linked
sale listing, NOT a criticism of ALL of the Endeavours.
I am in a hurry now, so my poste comments will be brief, but are offered in a friendly tone of voice, as if speaking with close friends:
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From the Sale Listing:
Endeavour 37 Plan A 1981
"This boat is currently
on the hard as we were planning on a complete re-fit.
all stainless
rigging is in excellent shape.
the
wood was stripped sanded and sealed and bungs were repaired.
the boat is
cutter rigged and all
sails are in amazing shape. the only
damage is to the
sail cover on the
genoa is tattered but the sail is fine. the exterior is primed with a two part
epoxy primer ready for what color
paint you would like. the boat has had all
blisters filled and sanded and only needs
bottom paint. the top
deck has no
soft spots except in the cockpit, there is a small crack on the floor. the
helm is a Richie and is in great shape shines like new.
both the water tank and the fuel tank where removed and a fresh coat of bilgekote was applied the
tanks where cleaned and painted with a industrial coating as to never tarnish or
rot.
the tanks are not hooked up as the work was just done.
The boats
engine is a
perkins 4.108 and all
seals where replaced as well as a rebuilt
transmission. both of which are
in the shop located 5 feet from the boat.
all
wiring was replaced around 5 years ago, and has 4 new
batteries,
the
interior is where there is some work to be done. nothing is missing but the parquet
flooring has pieces that popped out all of which are stored in the boat.
there is a
windlass anchor at the bow as well as a
brand new stainless steel pulpit. the bow of the boat was sanded down on the deck and new glass was layed and it is primed and ready for
paint.
the boat is 80% done and the price reflects that.
the boat also come with a 10 foot AB
inflatable without
engine.
also the boat yard has been paid already to transport the boat to the water so that is free for who ever buys it."
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My Quick Assessment:
This is a
project boat. And, to my eyes, it has a lot of work needing to be done.
This is a boat that has the engine and
transmission removed. $$ to replace and get running, IF it will run well or at all.
The boat has had a new pulpit put on, and the foredeck glassed. That is Red Flag to me and indicates a possible
repair needed because of some kind of
accident or crash. ???
The floor looks like it is in bad shape. The Endeavour floors are
teak parquet. Most I see are much better condition. Did this boat suffer some water damage? ???
New
wiring in last few years? Was there water damage? ???
The boat may be primed, but it will need to be painted. $$$
There is a soft spot and crack in the
cockpit floor. That may not be uncommon, but commonly leads to extensive
ROT in the
cockpit deck sub structure (wood) because an open cockpit typically collects rain water. This can require ripping out the entire cockpit (and that shiny helm) and many hours of labor to fix. I have read a blog by a CF
member (can't
recall name now) who had a boat that had this problem, and it took him many hours of work, messy work, to fix. I am not saying that is the case here, but it is a possibility I would rather avoid. YMMV.
The
cushions and entire
interior look very dirty and bad to me. $$
I have seen much better condition Endeavour 37 boats with engines in place, no need to paint, nice interiors, and apparently "ready to sail" for a few thousand dollars more than this project boat. (See earlier listing I posted for one that looks great and is Asking Price just $19,900).
So, my view?
I would pass on this one. To me, it is not worth the $12,000 Asking Price when there are much nicer boats out there that are not much more expensive and "ready to go" sailing (time has a value to me) and have fewer "unknowns."
I hope that helps.
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