Thanks for adding a boat to the mix for discussion.
I followed that link and read the description (See below) and looked at each photo
I don't want to discourage you if that is the kind of boat you want, but I also have a different opinion about that particular boat.
Remember, I do like the Endeavour
37 ("A" plan especially) and have recommended it as a noteworthy model up above in this thread. So, my comments are about that particular boat in that linked sale
listing, NOT a criticism of ALL of the Endeavours.
I am in a hurry now, so my poste comments will be brief, but are offered in a friendly tone of voice, as if speaking with close friends:
From the Sale Listing:
Endeavour 37 Plan A 1981
"This boat is currently on the hard as we were planning on a complete re-fit
all stainless rigging
is in excellent shape.
was stripped sanded and sealed and bungs were repaired.
the boat is cutter
rigged and all sails
are in amazing shape. the only damage
is to the sail cover
on the genoa
is tattered but the sail is fine. the exterior is primed with a two part epoxy
primer ready for what color paint
you would like. the boat has had all blisters
filled and sanded and only needs bottom paint
. the top deck
has no soft spots except in the cockpit
, there is a small crack on the floor. the helm
is a Richie and is in great shape shines like new. both the water tank and the fuel tank where removed
and a fresh coat of bilgekote was applied the tanks
where cleaned and painted with a industrial coating as to never tarnish or rot
the tanks are not hooked up as the work was just done.
The boats engine
is a perkins 4.108
and all seals
where replaced as well as a rebuilt transmission
. both of which are in the shop
located 5 feet from the boat.
was replaced around 5 years ago, and has 4 new batteries
is where there is some work to be done. nothing is missing but the parquet flooring
has pieces that popped out all of which are stored in the boat.
there is a windlass anchor
at the bow as well as a brand new stainless steel pulpit. the bow of the boat was sanded down on the deck and new glass was layed
and it is primed and ready for paint
the boat is 80% done and the price reflects that.
the boat also come with a 10 foot AB inflatable
also the boat yard has been paid already to transport the boat to the water so that is free for who ever buys it."
My Quick Assessment:
This is a project
boat. And, to my eyes, it has a lot of work needing to be done.
This is a boat that has the engine and transmission
removed. $$ to replace and get running, IF it will run well or at all.
The boat has had a new pulpit put on, and the foredeck glassed. That is Red Flag to me and indicates a possible repair
needed because of some kind of accident
or crash. ???
The floor looks like it is in bad shape. The Endeavour floors are teak
parquet. Most I see are much better condition. Did this boat suffer some water damage? ???
in last few years? Was there water damage? ???
The boat may be primed, but it will need to be painted. $$$
There is a soft spot and crack in the cockpit
floor. That may not be uncommon, but commonly leads to extensive ROT
in the cockpit
deck sub structure (wood) because an open cockpit typically collects rain water. This can require ripping out the entire cockpit (and that shiny helm) and many hours of labor to fix. I have read a blog by a CF member
name now) who had a boat that had this problem, and it took him many hours of work, messy work, to fix. I am not saying that is the case here, but it is a possibility I would rather avoid. YMMV.
and entire interior
look very dirty and bad to me. $$
I have seen much better condition Endeavour 37 boats with engines in place, no need to paint, nice interiors, and apparently "ready to sail" for a few thousand dollars more than this project boat. (See earlier listing I posted for one that looks great and is Asking Price just $19,900).
So, my view?
I would pass on this one. To me, it is not worth the $12,000 Asking Price when there are much nicer boats out there that are not much more expensive and "ready to go" sailing (time has a value to me) and have fewer "unknowns."
I hope that helps.