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Old 20-06-2018, 17:07   #1246
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Old 21-06-2018, 04:57   #1248
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I think there's a zero missing from that price but if not something very strange is going on here. Way too much boat for this kind of money.
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Here's a link to the Yachtworld listing. More pics including the strange 5' addition at the rear which did not help the boat's appearance or resale value. It would be interesting to know why a very expensive modification like that was done. The additional pictures appear to be a better indication of the boat's current condition. The hard chines make me think that this is glass over plywood but it's hard to know. It's certainly an atypical hull design, especially the electronic centerboard which appears to be ballasted.

At first glance this appears to be a lot of boat for the money but considering it's atypical design, significant modifications & that it's a custom build of unknow quality I'd want the best surveyor in the world if I was serious about this one and even then it's a crapshoot. It could be in good condition but a poor design. At the least I'd want some extensive sea trials in more than just calm water because there's no telling how this boat will handle. All that being said it could be a great boat at a great price.

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Old 21-06-2018, 05:43   #1250
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And this that popped up there

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1927.../United-States

Hate to imagine running costs!
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Old 21-06-2018, 06:14   #1251
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And it has an asterisk beside the price. Wonder what that means?
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Old 21-06-2018, 06:38   #1252
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Here's a link to the Yachtworld listing. More pics including the strange 5' addition at the rear which did not help the boat's appearance or resale value. It would be interesting to know why a very expensive modification like that was done. The additional pictures appear to be a better indication of the boat's current condition. The hard chines make me think that this is glass over plywood but it's hard to know. It's certainly an atypical hull design, especially the electronic centerboard which appears to be ballasted.

At first glance this appears to be a lot of boat for the money but considering it's atypical design, significant modifications & that it's a custom build of unknow quality I'd want the best surveyor in the world if I was serious about this one and even then it's a crapshoot. It could be in good condition but a poor design. At the least I'd want some extensive sea trials in more than just calm water because there's no telling how this boat will handle. All that being said it could be a great boat at a great price.

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Very good comment (and advice).
Very good advice about getting the survey and the more challenging seatrial.

I concur.
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That boat is a very odd design.
While I like Pilothouse boats, and I do like some of what I see in that boat's interior, when I look at that boat hull and keel design and the deck with the lack of side decks, the need to cross a high cabin with low lifelines, the boat makes me turn away, but only after some fascination that the boat developed into what it apparently has become.

That is a boat that is "special" but in an odd way. It is unusual. Consequently, it has been hard to sell (it has been on the market for a while as I recall).

Aesthetics can matter and have value. I also value function. One hopes to "love" one's boat, even if the boat is not considered by most to be "pretty." I just can't get past that photo that shows the boat on the hard (almost profile) that shows the hull shape and keel shape.
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Old 21-06-2018, 06:39   #1253
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And it has an asterisk beside the price. Wonder what that means?
I took that to mean that it is located offsite from the broker's location.
The boat description text has that mentioned along with ***
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Old 21-06-2018, 08:14   #1254
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And it has an asterisk beside the price. Wonder what that means?
From the ad, near the bottom...

"*This price is based on today's currency conversion rate"
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Old 21-06-2018, 10:07   #1255
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Very good comment (and advice).
Very good advice about getting the survey and the more challenging seatrial.

I concur.
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That boat is a very odd design.
While I like Pilothouse boats, and I do like some of what I see in that boat's interior, when I look at that boat hull and keel design and the deck with the lack of side decks, the need to cross a high cabin with low lifelines, the boat makes me turn away, but only after some fascination that the boat developed into what it apparently has become.

That is a boat that is "special" but in an odd way. It is unusual. Consequently, it has been hard to sell (it has been on the market for a while as I recall).

Aesthetics can matter and have value. I also value function. One hopes to "love" one's boat, even if the boat is not considered by most to be "pretty." I just can't get past that photo that shows the boat on the hard (almost profile) that shows the hull shape and keel shape.
I was hoping you would chime in. It would be interesting to contact the seller & hear the story behind this one.
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Old 21-06-2018, 13:01   #1256
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I was hoping you would chime in. It would be interesting to contact the seller & hear the story behind this one.
That boat scares me. The keel looks like a DIY job and the hull extension is just plain ugly. Pass.
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Old 23-06-2018, 12:42   #1257
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I've seen this one for a while and looks interesting... Anyone familiar with Cascade sailboats? Thanks!!

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/boa/d/cascade-36-sailboat/6623375850.html
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I've seen this one for a while and looks interesting... Anyone familiar with Cascade sailboats? Thanks!!

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/...623375850.html
I'm from Seattle. Cascades have a reputation for being very well built.

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The Chinook 34 by Cascade is arguably the 1st production keel boat.

The Cascade 29 is still being offered new making it the longest production run of any fiberglass keelboat, just shy of 60yr at this point.
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Old 28-06-2018, 05:15   #1259
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This was posted on the free boats thread but it really belongs here. Included is a link to a great series of youtube videos where a Cal 40 is completely redone & upgraded for the Transpac. Great boats but lightly built & will often need some structural work at this age. You can throw a lot of money at them but you'll end up with a real classic.


https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa...606768386.html

CAL 40 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com

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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds

Hey there, I'm a new member based in Germany.

Look at that: https://www.boat24.com/de/segelboote...detail/344330/

Maybe some vitae: 22 yrs old, haven't been sailing on a yacht yet. Refitted a 16ft dinghy 1,5 years ago and now I'm up for a bigger project. That Dufour 35 seems like a dream to me. I I Btw: I don't have the money, haha, but willing to make my way to it.
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