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Old 06-05-2017, 00:33   #691
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds

[Unfortunately I am not quite in the position to buy yet.]

Yeah, I feel the same way sitting here in Japan saving and scrimping with only 2 years to go. I'm ready to jump.
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To STEFFAN,

Thanks for adding a good profile of a boat, with the good data, many photos, and your own captions describing what you liked about it. Good post.
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Brent Swain designed 2002 Steel Pilothouse Cutter, 36 Feet LOA

Located in Sausalito, California $25,000.00 charter/purchase agreement


Like that pilothouse !!! Windvane steering. Tiller pilot. And lots of knotty pine below.

http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/65382
That is a nice looking Brent Boat.

I have looked at several of the Brent Boats over the years, and that is one of the best looking ones I have seen. They are usually owner built and finished, and that builder apparently took pride in his boat and the interior looks outstanding compared to most.

And, it appears well equipped (in the Brent Boat style) and in good condition and at a very good price too. I also like the pilot house.
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Brent Swain Design Boats

For the readers of this thread who are NOT familiar with "Brent Boats" or the Brent Swain designed steel boats, I suggest you do some Google search for "Brent Swain" or "Origami boats" to learn more, prior to purchasing one. There have been several heated discussions on the Boatdesign.net forums about this designer and the boats.

In short, Brent Swain came up with a way of making a steel boat by monocoque construction (bending the steel plates and welding them and without any ribs or stringers normally used in steel boat construction). This method of building the hull relies on the strength of the material (steel plate) and the welds) in a way that is unusual for yacht design.

Most yachts (steel boats) are built using a traditional method of ribs and stringers to build a skeleton on which the plating is then affixed. In the Brent Swain design, the steel plate is bent (using simple methods) and shaped into curved pieces that are then fit and welded together to produce a shell-like monocoque hull. Critics say that means a weaker hull. However, I am not aware of any Brent Swain design boat sinking due to hull weakness or structural failure.

The design is controversial and not without criticism. In fact, the designer is criticized by some too, because he is not formally educated as a Naval Architect. Traditional boat building depends on making a structure with ribs and stringers, which involves cutting a lot of pieces and many welds. The Brent Swain design does away with that, making the assembly of the hull simpler. Despite criticism from some prominent naval architects (e.g. Robert Perry), the builders of these boats (generally the owners) swear by them, love them, and usually take pride in what they built using simple tools and methods.

Some of the Brent Swain designed boats have twin or bilge keels and if you look for photos online you can see them drying out in the tidal areas of the PNW. Some have a single keel.

Hope that helps.
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Old 08-05-2017, 02:34   #694
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Tartan 34

My first attempt at contributing to the Boats Under 30 K thread. I’m not a sailor, however I hope to be in the near future. This boat appealed to me initially because of the new Yanmar diesel, the new Awl-Grip on the deck and hull, and it is a fresh water boat which appeals to me though I’m not sure what the advantages, if any, are. I suspect that a fresh water environment is far more benign than salt water. Feedback on that is very much welcome. I’ve looked at all the pictures from the agents website; she’s spic and span inside and the cushions appear to be clean as well. There is also a tiller post ready for use aft of the helm. It is a Tartan and that carries some weight. Tartan joined the sailing world in 1960 with the introduction of the Tartan 27 and 57 years on Tartan is still a name to contend with.

• Year: 1969
Current Price: US$*26,900
• Located in Muskegon, MI
• Hull Material: Fiberglass
• Engine/Fuel Type: Single diesel
• YW# 33264-2613023
Torresen Marine


From the agents website: This highly successful cruiser/racer is a keel/centerboarder with a skeg hung rudder. Her 9' 3" cockpit provides for plenty of legroom. Inside is a teak trim interior. Sea Escape has been upgraded in 2004 with a complete Awl-Grip painting of the decks, cabin house and hull. There is a new diesel engine with only 32 hours. This boat has never been in salt water, never mind what the transom says. The owner wanted to go south but never did. She is a fresh water boat only. And forget about the year of the boat. Condition and equipment are everything. Come and see for yourself! This is a great cruising boat for those shallow areas of the Great Lakes or go offshore to the Bahamas. Do the Great Loop! It's time to escape - she is ready for all of these adventures!

SPECS:

Boat Name
Sea Escape
Year: 1969
Builder: Tartan Marine Company
Designer: Olin Stephens
Keel: Centerboard


Dimensions
LOA: 34 ft 5 in
Beam: 10 ft 2 in
LWL: 25 ft 0 in
Minimum Draft: 3 ft 11 in
Maximum Draft: 8 ft 4 in
Displacement: 11200 lbs
Ballast: 4400 lbs
Headroom: 6 ft 2 in

Engines
Total Power: 22 HP
Engine 1:
Engine Brand: Yanmar
Engine Model: 3YM20
Engine Type: Inboard
Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
Engine Hours: 32 NEW
Propeller: 2 blade propeller
Drive Type: Direct Drive
Engine Power: 22 HP


Tanks
Fuel Tanks: Aluminum
Holding Tanks: Stainless steel

Accommodations
Number of heads: 1


Deck & Hull Features
Hull & Deck color - beige paint NEW
Wheel
Keel - lead
Cockpit Cushions
Dodger
Fenders
Lifelines
Stern Ladder
Winter Cover


Interior Accommodations
Sleeps 6
Shower
Head - standard toilet
Waste Tank - stainless steel, located under the starboard forward berth
Fresh Water Tank - aluminum, located under the starboard settee
Opening Ports - with screens
Refrigerator
Stove


Electrical Features
Batteries - 2, Battery Charger, Shorepower 110V




Rigging Features
Boom Vang
Roller Furling
Spinnaker Pole
Whisker Pole
Winches - 8
Winch Covers


Navigation & Electronics Systems
Autopilot
Compass


Safety & Miscellaneous Gear
Cradle
Anchor/Anchor Rode
Bilge Pump
Fire Extinguisher
Bell/Horn/Flares
Life Jackets/Life Ring
First Aid Kit


Sails
Main
Main Cover
Jib - 120%
Genoa - 150%
Genoa Cover
Lapper Staysail
Spinnakers - 2






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[QUOTE=chile1;2388323]Tartan 34

One of the cleanest, nicest, and certainly least expensive T34's out there. Starting with an excellent pedigree, Olin Stephens designed Tartan 34's are consistently rated one of the best "good old boats" especially in the so-named magazine. Many have traveled the distance from their Great Lakes origin to the Caribbean, where the centerboard/keel shoal draft makes them very desirable. And a brand new engine? Holy Mackerel.
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Tartan 34
Designer: Olin Stephens
Nice one! To most folks I might be pointing out the obvious but since you are new to the game I'll mention it anyways: Olin Stephens is Part of the famous "Sparkman & Stephens" (S&S). The Tartan 37 is S&S design #2253. Awesome boats, mucho pedigree, great performance, beautiful looks, ...

And yeah, I'm biased owning a IW-31 (S&S #1899)
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Tartan 37
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Steady's Notes

1. The Tartan 37 is one of my favorite boats for this size and class. I like many things about it.

2. This boat model is one I may post a few times in this thread as I come across examples worth noting.

3. This particular boat (linked below) has been reduced in price. I found it originally listed with an Asking Price of $45,000 on the Tartan owners' site.
Tartan 37 Sales Floor

It is now listed for just $27,500.

4. While this boat's ad photos show some stains on the settee cushions and I noticed the ad said some of the canvas needs replacement (Bimini, sail cover, dodger), those are things I would expect to replace or repair on most boats if the canvas is older.

5. There is a very good detailed review of this boat model found at Practical Sailor. https://www.practical-sailor.com/iss...7_11600-1.html

6. This is a Keel/Centerboard design with variable draft. With the board up, it is shallow draft of 4.17 feet.

7. Some of the photos shown below may be from sister boats.
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Current Sale Ad Listing

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/6086536125.html

Location = Portsmouth, Virginia, USA
Asking Price = $27,500

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Photos Used for Illustrative Purposes

The photos I used in this profile are for ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES and come from a mix of boats (not necessarily the boat in the example sale listed or linked above). I use these photos to show exemplary condition of the boat design, so one can compare to what is on the market.
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Specifications
(standard specs from the boat model, this boat may differ)

Hull Type: Keel/CB & spade rudder Rig Type: Masthead Sloop
LOA: 37.29' / 11.37m LWL: 28.50' / 8.69m
Beam: 11.75' / 3.58m Listed SA: 625 ft2 / 58.06 m2
Draft (max.) 7.75' / 2.36m Draft (min.) 4.17' / 1.27m
Displacement: 15500 lbs./ 7031 kgs. Ballast: 7500 lbs. / 3402 kgs.
Sail Area/Disp.1: 16.14 Bal./Disp.: 48.39% Disp./Len.: 298.92
Designer: Sparkman & Stephens
Builder: Tartan Marine (USA)
Construction: FG w/balsa cored deck Bal. type: Lead
First Built: 1976 Last Built: 1989 # Built: 486
AUXILIARY POWER (orig. equip.)
Make: Westerbeke Model: 50
Type: Diesel HP: 41
TANKS
Water: 90 gals. / 341 ltrs. Fuel: 50 gals. / 189 ltrs.
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My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Now that is a significant price drop,nice boat!
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Tartan 37
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Steady's Notes

1. The Tartan 37 is one of my favorite boats for this size and class. I like many things about it.

2. This boat model is one I may post a few times in this thread as I come across examples worth noting.

3. This particular boat (linked below) is the lowest priced Tartan 37 I have seen so far. To compare, look at Yachtworld listings or visit the Tartan owners' group site:
Tartan 37 Sales Floor

It is now listed for just $24,990.

4. Read the sale ad itself for details. This profile is to show this type of boat and a recent find. Some of the photos and data in this profile on CF may not match the listed boat, and are used for illustration of this boat model.

5. There is a very good detailed review of this boat model found at Practical Sailor. https://www.practical-sailor.com/iss...7_11600-1.html

6. This is a Keel/Centerboard design with variable draft. With the board up, it is shallow draft of 4.17 feet.

7. Some of the photos shown below may be from sister boats.
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Current Sale Ad Listing

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/6086536631.html

Location = Portsmouth, Virginia, USA
Asking Price = $24,990

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Photos Used for Illustrative Purposes

The photos I used in this profile are for ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES and may come from a mix of boats (not necessarily the boat in the example sale listed or linked above). I use these photos to show exemplary condition of the boat design, so one can compare to what is on the market.

ALL of the photos in this post are from the listed boat!
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Specifications
(standard specs from the boat model, this boat may differ)

Hull Type: Keel/CB & spade rudder Rig Type: Masthead Sloop
LOA: 37.29' / 11.37m LWL: 28.50' / 8.69m
Beam: 11.75' / 3.58m Listed SA: 625 ft2 / 58.06 m2
Draft (max.) 7.75' / 2.36m Draft (min.) 4.17' / 1.27m
Displacement: 15500 lbs./ 7031 kgs. Ballast: 7500 lbs. / 3402 kgs.
Sail Area/Disp.1: 16.14 Bal./Disp.: 48.39% Disp./Len.: 298.92
Designer: Sparkman & Stephens
Builder: Tartan Marine (USA)
Construction: FG w/balsa cored deck Bal. type: Lead
First Built: 1976 Last Built: 1989 # Built: 486
AUXILIARY POWER (orig. equip.)
Make: Westerbeke Model: 50
Type: Diesel HP: 41
TANKS
Water: 90 gals. / 341 ltrs. Fuel: 50 gals. / 189 ltrs.
___________________________________

My Disclaimers and Requests:

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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Tartan 37
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Steady's Notes

1. The Tartan 37 is one of my favorite boats for this size and class. I like many things about it.

2. This boat model is one I may post a few times in this thread as I come across examples worth noting.

3. This particular boat (linked below) is the BEST CONDITION Tartan 37 I have seen so far at this price level.

To compare, look at Yachtworld listings or visit the Tartan owners' group site:
Tartan 37 Sales Floor

It is now listed for just $29,900.

Compared to a few other Tartan 37s on the market at about that price, I think this particular one has some nice upgrades and looks particularly "fresh" and clean and well maintained. I also like the light blue Awlgrip paint color.

4. Read the sale ad itself for details. This profile is to show this type of boat and a recent find. Some of the photos and data in this profile on CF may not match the listed boat, and are used for illustration of this boat model.

5. There is a very good detailed review of this boat model found at Practical Sailor. https://www.practical-sailor.com/iss...7_11600-1.html

6. This is a Keel/Centerboard design with variable draft. With the board up, it is shallow draft of 4.17 feet.

7. Some of the photos shown below may be from sister boats.
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Current Sale Ad Listing

1979 Tartan 37 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Location = Mattapoisett, Massachusetts, USA

Asking Price = $29,900

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Description of Recent Maintenance and Upgrades on THIS Boat (from ad)
Recent Updates/Upgrades
New main halyard (2016)
New sanitation hose and Y-valves for head/holding tank discharge system (2016)
New centerboard pennant (2015)
New Lofrans electric windlass and chain (2013)
4 new gold cart batteries for house system (2013)
New Magma grill (2013)
New bimini and frame (2012)
Replaced and upgraded dodger (2012)
New interior cushions (2012)
New cockpit cushions (2012)
New custom fitted sheets for V-berth, quarter berth and pilot berth (2012)
New sail cover (2012)
Addition of 12VDC fuel pump (2011)
Replaced hot water heater with SS Johnson unit (2011)

Upgrades in Last 10yrs
Replacement of forward and mid-ship hatches with Lewmar hatches
Upgrade of Sea Frost engine drive refrigeration
Mast re-wired
Main and head sail approx 12-15yrs old
Misc interior lights
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Photos Used for Illustrative Purposes

The photos I used in this profile are for ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES and may come from a mix of boats (not necessarily the boat in the example sale listed or linked above). I use these photos to show exemplary condition of the boat design, so one can compare to what is on the market.

ALL of the photos in this post are from the listed boat!
____________________

Specifications
(standard specs from the boat model, this boat may differ)

Hull Type: Keel/CB & spade rudder Rig Type: Masthead Sloop
LOA: 37.29' / 11.37m LWL: 28.50' / 8.69m
Beam: 11.75' / 3.58m Listed SA: 625 ft2 / 58.06 m2
Draft (max.) 7.75' / 2.36m Draft (min.) 4.17' / 1.27m
Displacement: 15500 lbs./ 7031 kgs. Ballast: 7500 lbs. / 3402 kgs.
Sail Area/Disp.1: 16.14 Bal./Disp.: 48.39% Disp./Len.: 298.92
Designer: Sparkman & Stephens
Builder: Tartan Marine (USA)
Construction: FG w/balsa cored deck Bal. type: Lead
First Built: 1976 Last Built: 1989 # Built: 486
AUXILIARY POWER (orig. equip.)
Make: Westerbeke Model: 50
Type: Diesel HP: 41
TANKS
Water: 90 gals. / 341 ltrs. Fuel: 50 gals. / 189 ltrs.
___________________________________

My Disclaimers and Requests

I have no financial or other connection to this boat or the seller.
I have not seen this boat in person, nor have I sailed on it.
As with any boat, it is a good idea to research the design to learn about how they sail, common problems and owner opinions.
As with any boat, it is smart to have a qualified yacht surveyor perform a survey of the boat to assess its condition.
I am posting this to help others find boats. This one caught my eye, and I hope this thread helps others find a good fit for them.
I hope this thread proves helpful to CF Members. If so, let me know, as it is nice to know the time spent on it has helped others.
IF you purchase this boat, let me know (a PM would be OK).
IF you purchase this boat, I would enjoy seeing it, or going for a sail on it, if I am ever in your area. Or, if you own a similar or sister boat send me a PM. I enjoy sailing on a wide variety of boats and would like to get some time on many designs, including this one.
Good luck on your own boat hunt.
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You're finding some amazing values. Thanks!
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This particular boat (linked below) is the BEST CONDITION Tartan 37 I have seen so far at this price level.
I just checked out the pics at Yachtworld. I have to agree with you, a very tempting, clean boat. Thanks for posting this.
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds

Steady Hands 30K and under thread is addictive. I browse the listings and look for updates daily. Thanks SH for keeping the dream alive....
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:14   #704
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds

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Steady Hands 30K and under thread is addictive. I browse the listings and look for updates daily. Thanks SH for keeping the dream alive....

I agree! This thread is great. It is very encouraging to think that you can find a high quality boat for about $30K.

Thanks Steady Hand!
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Old 13-05-2017, 16:49   #705
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds

I want to stay on this thread too.

Have a nice Tartan 30 with a diesel that will qualify for this thread after I cruise the Gulf Islands this summer.

Love those T37's on the east coast .....
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