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Old 01-02-2022, 13:09   #3646
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I especially like the Red Oak flooring which will deteriorate with any water that gets to it. The carpeting on the hull sides is a nice touch also.
Yeah I have no idea if its real wood, most likely a vinyl stick on. Some mid 70's Morgan out islands came with shag carpet on the floor. That was really 70's. I seen a lot of older boats came factory with carpet 0f some kind on the walls and ceilings. I don't think I could get it to stick up there but I would suppose it's some kind of mildew resistant carpet. Probably makes a big difference in sound transmission and a little insulation. Looks like a young engine. 4.5 ft draft, it would work for me.
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57 years old, narrow beam, short water line. Still sailing
1965 Pearson Vanguard 33

33'$16,000
https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1965...rd-33-8157351/
That may be an old listing and price.
Here is the ad from Sail Boat Listings with a price of $13,250.

https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/94065
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I have one of these, a Ted Brewer Murray 33. There were about 13 hulls built, they were then owner finished so that varies a lot. I am very happy with mine. She is a proper little ship, lots of room. Very dry and stable.

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/199...urray-8151465/

Ted’s description.

https://www.tedbrewer.com/sail_steel/murray33.htm
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I am a total newbie when it comes to this forum and sailing in general but I have really enjoyed reading through this thread. I saw this boat the other day and am curious why the price is so low? From the pictures it seems to be in pretty decent shape, at least cosmetically. What am I not seeing?

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1982-dufour-31-3168676/
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I have one of these, a Ted Brewer Murray 33. There were about 13 hulls built, they were then owner finished so that varies a lot. I am very happy with mine. She is a proper little ship, lots of room. Very dry and stable.

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/199...urray-8151465/

Tedís description.

https://www.tedbrewer.com/sail_steel/murray33.htm

Thatís a nice boat, designed by the late master.
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1985 Bayfield 32C on north shore of Lake Erie, $17.5 Canadian (~$14K US).

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/nor...ale/1604284574

This is a very good price for one of these boats. New engine, new sails.

Shallow draft (3'9"). They are good, solid small coastal cruisers.

The interior looks dirty and tired although the interior pictures are dark so it's hard to assess. It has a propane stove and heater. Opening ports.

If the photos are recent, this has had a recent bottom job. Dodger and bimini. Good sized cockpit.

There appears to be an anchor roller and reinforcing bar added below the wooden bow platform. This overcomes the common complaint about access to anchors on the extended version of the bow platform on these boats (there is an anchor roller there too).
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I am a total newbie when it comes to this forum and sailing in general but I have really enjoyed reading through this thread. I saw this boat the other day and am curious why the price is so low? From the pictures it seems to be in pretty decent shape, at least cosmetically. What am I not seeing?

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1982-dufour-31-3168676/
definitely worth a look if it interests you. The photo shows a volvo diesel, they list gasoline? I don't see a heat exchanger, I never understood raw water cooling. Probably on the hard now and you can check out the hull and keel. If your lucky you'll bring someone who can spot really expensive problems with you. Maybe the time of year when people have second thoughts of keeping the boat another season. You can't sail it, it just costs money to keep. I doubt this boat stays on the market for long
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1983 38' Morgan Sloop sail boat
$6,000
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...c-7f77fbd6df22



Could be a 383 or 384 model
Has termite damage.
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I am a total newbie when it comes to this forum and sailing in general but I have really enjoyed reading through this thread. I saw this boat the other day and am curious why the price is so low? From the pictures it seems to be in pretty decent shape, at least cosmetically. What am I not seeing?

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1982-dufour-31-3168676/
Interesting. I did not look closely at the boat, the engine caught my eye. At first glance I thought it was a MD6 or MD7, but it is neither. It is a green diesel, but the alternator/starter and decompression levers are wring for the MD 6/7 series.

It may be a Volvo, or may just be painted green. But its not like any MD-6/7 I have seen.

Am I missing something?
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Old 06-02-2022, 19:24   #3655
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I am a total newbie when it comes to this forum and sailing in general but I have really enjoyed reading through this thread. I saw this boat the other day and am curious why the price is so low? From the pictures it seems to be in pretty decent shape, at least cosmetically. What am I not seeing?

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1982-dufour-31-3168676/
Welcome aboard!
On first blush, whenever I see a low price, I think, "it's the engine," which I think is the case here. That engine is not a gas engine, it is the Volvo MD2B I believe, a diesel. (Here is a rebuilt one)


Yes, raw water cooled. They were good engines but this one is the original I bet and it may have problems with cooling and may need to be rebuilt now. Rebuilding one of those now is so expensive that it is usually deemed more prudent to re-power with a Beta Marine (Kubota) engine to take its place. That is probably around $10,000, maybe less. HOWEVER, my buddy has an MD7A that a mechanic friend of ours rebuilt for him for a good deal less than that and it is a great little engine now. He is careful to keep the cooling lines flushed.
There is no mention of condition so I am guessing it is time to replace rigging and probably sails, hard to know. If you are in the market and you really like that model it would behoove you to hire a surveyor to go through it all. Pretty soon $5000 will be triple that or more I bet.
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Interesting. I did not look closely at the boat, the engine caught my eye. At first glance I thought it was a MD6 or MD7, but it is neither. It is a green diesel, but the alternator/starter and decompression levers are wring for the MD 6/7 series.

It may be a Volvo, or may just be painted green. But its not like any MD-6/7 I have seen.

Am I missing something?
Check MD2
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I just saw a Southern Cross 31 cutter rig just listed on eBay. It's a mess, but if you're game for a very cool rebuild.... It's out of my skill range.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-Southe...-127632-2357-0
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I just saw a Southern Cross 31 cutter rig just listed on eBay. It's a mess, but if you're game for a very cool rebuild.... It's out of my skill range.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-Southe...-127632-2357-0

I wonder if the thieves stole the rudder
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I am a total newbie when it comes to this forum and sailing in general but I have really enjoyed reading through this thread. I saw this boat the other day and am curious why the price is so low? From the pictures it seems to be in pretty decent shape, at least cosmetically. What am I not seeing?

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1982-dufour-31-3168676/

The seller is a "charity". The low price usually reflects major defects or problems. Although sometime one can pick up a deal from them.

Awhile back I got a 28 foot sailboat from them in very good condition with crisp like new set of sails. The major problem was a seized Universal 5411 which I was planning to have rebuilt. While I was pricing rebuild kits I came across a used Yanmar for short $ and had my marine pro buddy help me install it as well as guide me on redoing engine beds.

Altogether it turned from possible nightmare to positive learning experience and I ended up with a nice boat for about $3k altogether, including purchase price, used motor and install. Although looking back I probably should've just rebuilt the Universal.
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The seller is a "charity". The low price usually reflects major defects or problems. Although sometime one can pick up a deal from them.
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That explains them featuring the LORAN units.
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