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Old 21-01-2022, 10:55   #3571
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It appears the saloon does not have any opening portlights (Celestial Sailor and I noticed this, and he mentioned it in a comment). How was the ventilation in the saloon when at anchor?

The boat in the OP does have some Dorades on deck, but I assume those are optional or may have been added by an owner, not aware if they came standard on this design. Do you know if they were a standard feature of the design?
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- Cowl vents/dorades (4) are standard.
- There is an opening portlight above galley,
- Opening hatch over salon table (in front of mast)
- Large opening hatch over v-berth.

We did not find ventilation to be a problem at anchor. (Then again we only used our Landfall 38 in British Columbia... max 30C.)

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1978 Hinterhoeller Niagara 35

LOA = 35'
YEAR = 1978
DRAFT = 5.17 feet
BOATS BUILT = 260

ASKING PRICE = $25,564 US ($32,000 CAN)


LOCATION: PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND, CANADA (near Nova Scotia)

LISTING LINK: https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/197...ra-35-8010153/

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1. This is an older boat (1978) with a newer engine (2002 Volvo MK2030D, 27hp)
2. This layout is unusual, but I like it.
3. There is a midships saloon and head, aft double berth
4. There is a workshop area in forepeak (where another boat would have a Vberth)
5. Nice teak joinery (interior)

6. From the photos, this appears to be in good condition and well kept.

7. LOCATION: Prince Edward Island is just off the coast of Nova Scotia Canada. I have read about it, and would very much like to see it and the surroundings and the nearby Cape Breton Island (just to the east of Prince Edward) with the Bras d'Or lakes there. It is also not far from Newfoundland, another wonderful place to cruise. In short, this could be a nice starting point for cruising.
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This design was posted in this thread years ago, so you might find more comments from previous owners and other on it there, or use the Google search feature on CF to look for other discussions of this design. I noticed this sale listing and was reminded of the design.
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As always, take my comments with a splash of saltwater. I am not a boat builder, and I have NO connection to this boat or its owner or broker. I am not the most experienced sailor on CF and do not claim any expertise.

I am sharing my opinion on boats, based on my own likes and my personal experience (so far 8,150 offshorepassage miles) sailing on a wide variety of boats (from oldies to new million dollar boats).

I have some personal preferences too. I tend to like classic styled boats. I like traditional styling. I appreciate good looks, use of wood, fiberglass hulls, and comforts.

For the purposes of this discussion topic, I am sharing boats that are inexpensive ( Less than $30K), or may be within the budget of many people. I am merely sharing something in this discussion thread that I saw and thought might interest some CF Members.

I also know that not every sailboat buyer is going to take their boat on a circumnavigation, and some never spend much time in "blue water." For some buyers/owners, it is OK to simply have a boat at the dock. Or one to live on at anchor. So, different boats for different folks. 

And there is no shame in wanting to own a boat that may not be ready for blue water or ocean crossing. Most sailboat owners fall into that category. We can all enjoy boats for different reasons. 

I hope this helps someone.

I've had a look at the Niagra ,I like the interior the diesel heater looks like an expensive to run item going on UK fuel prices
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40' Endeavor

40' Endeavor - $25,000 (St Mary's GA)

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Old 21-01-2022, 16:41   #3574
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I've had a look at the Niagra ,I like the interior the diesel heater looks like an expensive to run item going on UK fuel prices
Not really, it's a small boat. A small space doesn't take much to heat.
It's just as likely to be propane. The Newport has solid fuel, diesel and propane versions.

How else would you heat a boat?
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This is nice; certainly as a family day sail or weekend cruiser.

About average price. A number for sale about $20K.

The engine looks to be a Yanmar. Probably original, which is OK for 1987. Looks well kept. Hours?

Nice use of the usually empty space below the cockpit for the aft cabin and head compartment.

No picture of galley. Small opening ports to port and starboard amidships, and hatch over the V-berth. Opening port in aft cabin to cockpit.
I have an 88 ODay 322 and love it. Sails well, great cabin for a 32 boat.

Mine has a 2GM20F Yanmar. I am on Lake Michigan, so no tides to deal with, but the Aux pushes the boat fine.
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1978 Hinterhoeller Niagara 35

LOA = 35'
YEAR = 1978
DRAFT = 5.17 feet
BOATS BUILT = 260


I hope this helps someone.
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I like the look of that layout for cruising, it makes a lot of sense to my eye. The V-berth is often not the best, or even a good, place to sleep (except for kids! They love it) while sailing. I've always heard good things about Hinterhoeller too.
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Old 21-01-2022, 20:00   #3577
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds

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ODay 322 32' sailboat REDUCED! - $21,470 (Patchogue)(Long Island, NY)
https://longisland.craigslist.org/bo...428952858.html

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I have an 88 ODay 322 and love it. Sails well, great cabin for a 32 boat.
Mine has a 2GM20F Yanmar. I am on Lake Michigan, so no tides to deal with, but the Aux pushes the boat fine.
Good to know. Thanks for the pictures, especially the picture of the galley!
Very nice! You guys look like you're having a blast!
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I've had a look at the Niagra ,I like the interior the diesel heater looks like an expensive to run item going on UK fuel prices
What is expensive is paying for a boat you cant use because its too and/or damp.

I am fairly sure that is a diesel heater looking at the control. Looks just like the carburetor in my Dickinson cooker.

And the flue is a diesel flue.
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What is expensive is paying for a boat you cant use because its too and/or damp.
Yeah, the price of diesel is the least of my worries, tbh!
We don't have any heating in our boat and it gets a bit nippy in October...
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^ It was 18F here last night (about -10C) here. Espar diesel heater is earning its keep.
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Yeah, the price of diesel is the least of my worries, tbh!
We don't have any heating in our boat and it gets a bit nippy in October...
I know what you mean...it gets down in the 80's in October on the ranch.
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I know what you mean...it gets down in the 80's in October on the ranch.
Well, we gotta go and knock about a metre of snow (3 feet for you guys) off the top of the boat covers tomorrow! We were hoping for it to warm up, but it's forecast for-15C (5F) tomorrow. We'll need snowshoes, too!
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Well, we gotta go and knock about a metre of snow (3 feet for you guys) off the top of the boat covers tomorrow! We were hoping for it to warm up, but it's forecast for-15C (5F) tomorrow. We'll need snowshoes, too!

I was tongue and cheek because i was born in Hamilton, Ont. and also worked up in the Tundra of Northern Alberta. Moved down here in the late 70's.
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds

Just noticed that this boat has gone down to $19K, not a bad price and it doesn't look like it's in terrible condition. https://pensacola.craigslist.org/boa...436096303.html
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Just noticed that this boat has gone down to $19K, not a bad price and it doesn't look like it's in terrible condition. https://pensacola.craigslist.org/boa...436096303.html
Wow! THAT is one to check IMO.
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