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07-07-2021, 11:55
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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I wouldn't take that one if it was free.
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Agreed, unless you wanted an empty hull because it would be easier to rip it all out and start again.
I think the Colvics were often home completed.
Pete
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08-07-2021, 11:24
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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08-07-2021, 16:23
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Location: Morrisburg, ON
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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Originally Posted by CaptWho
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For someone with skills, determination, not much money and a lot of time, this is a good deal. They are decent very roomy boats (smallish cockpit by modern standards), they sail well, although there are typical difficulties because they are old.
My friend has one; it's been laid up indoors for years. It circumnavigated in its day. I think she's fed up with it.
The work she's had done for $$$: Refinished teak. Repaired many, many leaks. Hatches had rotted out the core surrounding them. Teak deck leaked and needed relaying (I would have ripped that out completely except perhaps the cockpit). Cockpit forward bulkhead leaked into the interior. The cap rail leaked into interior (a.c. electrical system was unusable consequently).
Mast needs replacing? Check the bowsprit too.
If I were 40 again...
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08-07-2021, 17:49
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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Originally Posted by Diogo Cyrineu
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Diogo, that was a joke, right?
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08-07-2021, 17:50
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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08-07-2021, 18:30
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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08-07-2021, 18:32
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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08-07-2021, 19:10
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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Originally Posted by CaptWho
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I suspect that in this case the electric motor may be a liability; I wonder how long it can realistically go on those batteries. It may be one of the reasons for the lower price.
I like that Choate though!
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1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
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09-07-2021, 02:27
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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I suspect that in this case the electric motor may be a liability; I wonder how long it can realistically go on those batteries. It may be one of the reasons for the lower price.
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Done right, the electric motor is actually a selling point for me. My ideal boat would have a water cooled electric motor with plenty of solar and batteries along with a wind generator and a genset in reserve for long distance motoring. A diesel engine is a lot more efficient driving a generator than driving a prop. A person could go a very long way before they had to begin to think of buying more fuel for the genset.
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09-07-2021, 08:29
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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Originally Posted by CaptWho
Done right, the electric motor is actually a selling point for me. My ideal boat would have a water cooled electric motor with plenty of solar and batteries along with a wind generator and a genset in reserve for long distance motoring. A diesel engine is a lot more efficient driving a generator than driving a prop. A person could go a very long way before they had to begin to think of buying more fuel for the genset.
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I know this has come up before, but I'd really need to see the math on that. Sounds kinda Rube Goldberg to me.
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09-07-2021, 09:02
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
As technology progresses, electric motors will be more and more common. I would imagine a hybrid will be next. Canvas sail were the norm 100 years ago. The thought of this thing called Dacron was scoffed at. Who would put a plastic sail on their boat?
Throw away paper charts? You'll end up lost and dying out there. Fin keels are not ocean worthy boats. Admiralty anchors are the only safe anchors.
There was also a time when auxiliary power was only an option.
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09-07-2021, 09:17
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
Yeah but the physics seems to favor just sticking with diesel for now, no? Given that diesels are run at a constant RPM anyway I don't see how running a diesel to generate electricity to power a prop will be more efficient.
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09-07-2021, 12:06
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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Originally Posted by Don C L
Yeah but the physics seems to favor just sticking with diesel for now, no? Given that diesels are run at a constant RPM anyway I don't see how running a diesel to generate electricity to power a prop will be more efficient.
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Seems to work in a Prius.
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09-07-2021, 14:12
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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Originally Posted by Don C L
Yeah but the physics seems to favor just sticking with diesel for now, no? Given that diesels are run at a constant RPM anyway I don't see how running a diesel to generate electricity to power a prop will be more efficient.
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More expensive as well - you need the diesel as well as the electric drive.
Cars do not compare. Their use and charging issues are very different.
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09-07-2021, 14:27
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds
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Originally Posted by Celestialsailor
Seems to work in a Prius.
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A Prius is a very different use case than a boat. In stop and go driving the electric motor takes care of getting the car moving. The engine then takes over.
On a boat you set a speed and go, no stopping and starting.
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