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Old 20-06-2020, 08:25   #1861
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Somehow AUD$ ? is showing - USD price:

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Somehow AUD$ ? is showing - USD price:

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US$ 7,900
Wow, even better. My location needed changed. Thanks.
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Hi Folks!

It has been a while since I posted in this thread, mostly due to some other projects. But, a recent discussion in another thread where I participated reminded me about this topic, because evidently one newbie to the forum and inexperienced sailor member had the mistaken impression that I don't like older boats or that I don't think it is possible to find a suitable cruising boat for less than a lot of money.

I thought that was ironic, since I started this thread precisely to help people notice some "Noteworthy boats" that are in the "less than $30K" asking price point or level. In fact, looking back at this thread, the first boat I posted was listed for $10K or less (it was an auction).
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I encourage anyone to add to this thread, and hope folks will follow the suggested "10 Points of Guidelines" of the thread up above.

Rules? Who needs rules!??
Those are really guidelines designed to help us all help others here via this thread and to keep it valuable to the forum and not have it shut down due to spamming. Read the "10 Points" above and then add what you can below, whenever you come across what you think would be a good boat for someone on a budget limited to no more than $30,000 for the asking price of the boat.

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Here is what I saw today and it appears to be a new listing (a few days old):

MORGAN 33 1969 $7K

Location = St. Augustine FLORIDA

Morgan 33 Ft. Sailboat

Quoted from the Sale Listing:
Restored 1969 Morgan 33 Everything new, electric 110 v and 12v , new thru hull fittings ,all hose water ,fuel ,holding tanks . Motor gone over ,new muffler all hoses over heat, oil pressure sensor and alarm ,New tach. New ST 40 Raymarine depth and speed. New running rigging 135% and 165% head sail , battened main and spinnaker. Top side and hull painted. All new cushions.and lights. Asking $7200


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This boat has a nice paint job. Looking at the description in the sale notice, it appears the boat has been prepped for sale. New running rigging, some new instruments, new cushions, new through hull fittings, and possibly new(ish) sails? Many boats at this price point do NOT have that going for them. So, apparently someone has made an effort to make this boat presentable. That is a good sign. It is certainly much better looking than many or most of the boats I have seen listed for less than $10,000 at this approximate size.
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I highly doubt he spent probably the asking price on all that to sell the boat. I’d wager this was a fixing it up nice and then something happened, health, had to move, larger issue discovered, etc.

As long as said issue wasn’t a issue found on the boat, thats a stupid good price if that add is honest.
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Old 20-06-2020, 13:28   #1864
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Asking $7900 US. Not sure what the Florida registration is about.
The impression I get from the photos is this boat has been left sitting for a while.

New engine has got to be a positive but the picture doesn't exactly look "new".
No apparent ground tackle. Old-looking gear and canvas, as expected.

There are similar boats on Yachtworld in the same area, to compare:
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...er-33-3112354/
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...er-33-3654099/
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/197...er-33-3649124/
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https://au.yachtworld.com/boats/1981...ubini-2988261/
$11, 588
1981 Hunter Cherubini 33 Great Lakes boat

New Yanmar. New bottom paint. New head. 5 sails. A/C.
...and another thing, I find it a bit annoying when someone throws a hundred dollars of bottom paint on just before attempting to sell a boat.
I prefer to see the warts if there are any.

The worst case was when we bought a steel boat and went to see it on the hard the evening before we were due to go aboard with the broker. It had a tired coat of bottom paint and a fair few barnacles. By the time we visited, about 15 hours later, someone had painted the bottom.

Unbeknownst to us he had used a wire wheel to remove the barnacles (and the coal tar epoxy underneath). We were chasing little semi circular rust spots for years.
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...and another thing, I find it a bit annoying when someone throws a hundred dollars of bottom paint on just before attempting to sell a boat.
I prefer to see the warts if there are any.

The worst case was when we bought a steel boat and went to see it on the hard the evening before we were due to go aboard with the broker. It had a tired coat of bottom paint and a fair few barnacles. By the time we visited, about 15 hours later, someone had painted the bottom.

Unbeknownst to us he had used a wire wheel to remove the barnacles (and the coal tar epoxy underneath). We were chasing little semi circular rust spots for years.
Well you’d be crazy to think for that size of boat and price you won’t be 250% asking price to make it right.

That said, not sure I’d invest in that model

Mine is about the same size, but done right, with all said and done, I’d scuttle it before I let go for less than 30k
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Well you’d be crazy to think for that size of boat and price you won’t be 250% asking price to make it right.

That said, not sure I’d invest in that model

Mine is about the same size, but done right, with all said and done, I’d scuttle it before I let go for less than 30k
Yep, it's all about condition of the boat. That's why looking at production boats is interesting as you can pretty well get direct comparisons. You also want a caring PO (previous owner) in my opinion.

Nah, you wouldn't scuttle her, surely? We plan to be buried on this boat..
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Old 21-06-2020, 07:29   #1868
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This boat has been for sale for a while and is reduced to $20K Canadian (~$15K US). It is the later model. Should sell at this price. I've seen a number at $13K to $25K and this looks good. They were a well-built boat in their day.

We've known a number of people single-hand these. I'd put a second roller furler on if it came to that. And probably a manual windlass.

The interior is very nice. You could eat off the engine pan!

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/kin...ser/1381824585

Near Kingston, Ontario, Canada.
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You don't say where you are. In the Great Lakes area there are a number of very decent boats in your size and price range. On Canadian side or US side.
Good luck with your visit!
We are in New England, specifically sailing Narragansett bay and coastal (hence the forum name).
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What are your thoughts on this one ?
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/197...sa-41-3195887/

1977 Formosa 41, asking $25,000
Look like a lot of white paint hiding some misery.
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What are your thoughts on this one ?
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/197...sa-41-3195887/

1977 Formosa 41, asking $25,000
Look like a lot of white paint hiding some misery.
As a live aboard this boat has some good gear. AC, 3 fridges(!), big tanks, shower, good sleeping accommodation, 3 burner stove with oven, recent engine, recent electrical system, generator.

I like the fact that the owner took off the teak decks. They are a constant source of trouble on Taiwanese boats of this vintage. White paint is a good idea in Miami, rather than teak and varnish.

Hull needs painting. The ground tackle is not very serious, at least a manual windlass would be a good idea.

Look for: rot in the bowsprit, samson post and booms, water ingress in the caprail (if the teak plugs have failed), leaks and rot in cockpit walls, rot in plywood core of deck or cabin top (typically around hatches and hardware with failed caulk). Usually there will be signs of water inside. All can be fixed with time and effort.

I'd say this was a boat for a live aboard who rarely left the marina.
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Re: Boats Less Than $30K Recent Noteworthy Finds

Morgan Out Island for $6500.

It looks dirty, but the owner says that it's solid and has good rigging. Might be a good candidate for electric conversion. I'd probably start with an offer of ~$2500.

https://keys.craigslist.org/boa/d/ke...147499341.html
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1990 Nimble 30 Classic yawl. $35K CAD (~$25K US). In Victoria, BC.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/vic...ser/1506034922

More pictures with $30K CAD price here (says sold):
https://www.usedvictoria.com/ReportS...osition=1&hb=5

I like these boats. Well-built. In general, if they have been looked after, they are a good buy.

Pro: Some good gear, diesel, allegedly good ground tackle, Wallas cooktop/heater, good sized cockpit, composting toilet.

Con: no bimini or awnings (mind you, this is the Pacific NW), centreboard would need close inspection, and those "reconditioned" interior cushions would be hard for me to live with...!

Tiller steering? Yawl? Some people might argue about the merits of those features.
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Columbia 45 Motorsailer - $10000 (Anacortes)

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/b...157066784.html

Not too bad looking.
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1988 Compass Cutter - $20k - Fort Pierce, FL

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...utter-3042801/

I guess it's a 46'? Something doesn't add up. Sailboatdata.com has a 38' and a 47'

Thoughts?
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