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20-06-2010, 20:42
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 8
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Boat to Last a Lifetime ?
Hello, Im looking to buy a sloop (25-35ft). Wondering if there is a particular model and size that would be a good starter boat but also able to do trans-ocean trips once I gain enough expierence.
Some points that are a must to me are:
-Inboard diesel
-Able to be sailed solo
-Able to have auto-helm installed
If there is any particular model that stands out in your mind or any other info please let me know. Thanks in advance.
Peace
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20-06-2010, 20:47
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Tasmania
Boat: VandeStadt IOR 40' - Insatiable
Posts: 2,317
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S&S34
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20-06-2010, 20:51
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
Posts: 7,260
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20-06-2010, 21:44
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 16,307
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Welcome to the forum.
First your question is a bit broad. Most boats in the 30' plus range will be inboard and most of those diesel. 25'-30' you might find more outboards.
Properly rigged I think any boat in that size range can be handled solo and don't know of any that could not take an automatic pilot of some variety.
That being said, there are dozens if not hundreds of boats that would work, especially if budget is not an issue, but then isn't it always?
So, got a price range in mind? That will help narrow it down.
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20-06-2010, 21:55
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 866
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You might be better off with a two-boat strategy.
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21-06-2010, 01:00
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Lake Macquarie
Boat: Bluewater 420 CC
Posts: 756
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Have I got a deal for you?
Hi Sailbull
My Compass 29 is for sale. Only 30 years old. Has all the required features in your list. Boats name is Lulu. I was going to re-name it Osmosis but thought it might predjudice a quick sale. Let's say it would suit a handyman. Where do you live? Vancouver. Sorry no can do, I need to find someone that lives further away.
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21-06-2010, 01:17
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,820
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sailbull
Boat to Last a Lifetime ?
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How long you intending on living?
Mark
PS Welcome to CF
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21-06-2010, 04:44
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#8
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Australia
Boat: CT 54... for our sins!
Posts: 2,083
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eleebana
Hi Sailbull
Where do you live? Vancouver. Sorry no can do, I need to find someone that lives further away.
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Now that was a seriously funny post!!
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21-06-2010, 17:39
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 21,541
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eleebana
Hi Sailbull
My Compass 29 is for sale. Only 30 years old. Has all the required features in your list. Boats name is Lulu. I was going to re-name it Osmosis but thought it might predjudice a quick sale. Let's say it would suit a handyman. Where do you live? Vancouver. Sorry no can do, I need to find someone that lives further away.
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Hey! I saw Lulu actually floating a few weeks ago... lead down, aluminium up... what could possibly go wrong?? Vancouver just might be OK, Greg!
Cheers,
Jim
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21-06-2010, 18:45
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#10
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Boston, MA
Boat: Bristol 38.8
Posts: 1,625
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Morris 34
Morris Leigh (30)
Morris Annie (28)
Pacific Seacraft 34
Bristol Channel Cutter 28
Hinckley Pilot (35)
An S&S 34 (already mentioned) or a Tartan 34 (also an S&S design) if you can't afford any of the boats I've listed above.
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21-06-2010, 20:30
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#11
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 8
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Wow, thanks for the replies. My budget is around 25000, 30000 at the most, for the time being.
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21-06-2010, 20:56
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1
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Best Boats
Pacific Seacraft 31 or 34. Without a doubt!
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22-06-2010, 07:00
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Boston, MA
Boat: Bristol 38.8
Posts: 1,625
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sailbull
Wow, thanks for the replies. My budget is around 25000, 30000 at the most, for the time being.
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Well you can forget about any of the boats I mentioned, with the possible exception of the Tartan 34. Plus, almost any boat that you can buy for 30K will require another 30K of repairs and updates before it is suitable for crossing oceans in safety.
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22-06-2010, 07:08
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#14
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Punta Gorda Fl.
Boat: 1979 Hunter 37 cutter
Posts: 33
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I agree with Curmudgeon. You are not going to get anything blue water ready for $30k.
Any of the boats above and also 70's Pearson's C&Cs Tartans and Morgans can be re rigged to be blue water capable. Fiberglass lasts forever and boats built before they knew how strong it was are HEAVILY built.
Might be good for you to do the rigging, autopilot, electrical and other work yourself, unless you are planning on taking repair people across with you.
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22-06-2010, 07:20
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#15
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: West Palm Beach
Boat: Parkins Herreshoff 28
Posts: 956
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allied seawind 30
allied luders 33
allied seawind II 32
can all be had around that budget and are built for anything, okay maybe im a little biased
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