Boat to Last a Lifetime ?

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by pressuredrop

allied seawind 30
allied luders 33
allied seawind 32

can all be had around that budget and are built for anything, okay maybe im a little biased

Southern Cross 28 and 31
Westsail 32

But most of these 70's cruising boats are cutters or ketches, not sloops. For sloops, there is the Luders, the Arberg 30 and the Pearson 35.

The Pearson 35 is actually a boat he should consider. Just put in some extra cockpit drains and upgrade the rigging, and it can be sailed pretty much anywhere.

[pressuredrop]

and the pearson vanguard (32')

[SaltyMonkey]

(rattle rattle.....kaplop!) Whats that sound? The sound of the Pearson centerboard dropping into Neptunes purse.

[agrainofsand]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Well you can forget about any of the boats I mentioned, with the possible exception of the Tartan 34. Plus, almost any boat that you can buy for 30K will require another 30K of repairs and updates before it is suitable for crossing oceans in safety.

I bought my DE 32 (Downeast 32) for $22,000 at a lien sale and it surveyed very good. No repairs needed. I added GPS, radar, tiller pilot, a windless, and took my solar system off my travel trailer and mounted it on the boat. I put about $8,000 into her. I can and will go anywhere in the world.

[BlueWaterMD]

PSC (31 & 34) and Nor'Sea 27 both would work. They come at a significant cost.

[knothead]

Nor'Sea 27'

YouTube - Jenny Lee entering Ixtapa.mpg

YouTube - Single handing on Tampa Bay

[chuckr]

why limit yourself to a 30' boat - i sail a jeannau ds40 and manage her nicely single handed my first year out - from miami to woods hole and back with most on the outside as i do not like the ditch - she has a great diesel, autopilot, radar you name and she has it - putting on a 3 solar panel this summer with maybe an ais as we are headed to the southern carib after 5 1/2 months in bahamas last winter
she is a bit beyond your budget but has the works and a great liveaboard boat
and easy to sail - i do not have to leave the cockpit to do anything except drop the hook -
now that i have an admiral it has plenty of room for two

do have a friend that has a westsail 32 and he is full time liveaboard and sailor and loves the boat

just our thoughts - do not limit yourself

chuck patty and svsoulmates
on the hook deltaville va

[chuckr]

Oh for got one thing - this boat will take us almost anywhere in the world we want to - and yes we bought one boat to go anywhere and will not change her out as we will stay on her until we decide to hang it up which with God's grace will be a long time from now

chuck patty and svsoulmates
on the hook deltaville va

[SkiprJohn]

Aloha,
You've asked a question that has concerned every sailor who has ever been on the water except you put a length limit and a budget limit on it.
If you look at a couple links after my signature and the book recommendation you'll find some pros and cons about each boat.
Boats built outside of the U. S. can be researched by naming a particular boat and having forum members comment.
Hope you can find your dream.
regards,

[VirtualVagabond]

Top Hat 25.

Full keel sloop, solid little battleship, a number have done circums. Been around here forever and there are heaps of them still sailing. Currently sell for equivalent of $8,000 - $28,000 US. Most have inboard diesels, some have an outboard in a cockpit well. That leaves heaps of $ to set it up for serious cruising.

Start your cruising career on the Aus east coast, Barrier Reef, Whitsunday Islands... cheap wine, real beer and better hamburgers than the USA, usually made by the Greek cafe on the corner...

[sandy daugherty]

NOBODY buys their last boat first!




(unless its really, really bad.)

[skipmac]

Originally Posted by sandy daugherty

NOBODY buys their last boat first!




(unless its really, really bad.)

Very good point (and funny). You will never know what particular things on a boat you like and don't like, want or don't want, until you've spent some time on a boat. Just never know until you try it for a while and inevitably you will change what you originally thought.

Get a cheaper starter that you can learn on and play with for a while, sell it and then go for the lifetime boat.