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07-01-2013, 22:09
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#76
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
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08-01-2013, 08:45
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#77
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New Orleans
Boat: Bruce Roberts 44 Ofshore
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
Ooh, that Nordhavn looks nice! Does it sail decently to windward? Tack? I would hate to have to depend on an engine to make it go somewhere.
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08-01-2013, 12:32
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#78
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Portugal/Med
Boat: Comet 41s
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
That is a motor boat with auxiliary sails
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08-01-2013, 12:37
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#79
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New Orleans
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
That's okay. I have seen people motoring on sailboats with auxillary engines!
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10-01-2013, 11:24
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#80
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Durham, NC
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
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Originally Posted by GrowleyMonster
Ooh, that Nordhavn looks nice! Does it sail decently to windward? Tack? I would hate to have to depend on an engine to make it go somewhere.
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Very affordable, no doubt.
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10-01-2013, 11:58
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#81
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Wherever our boat is; Playa Zaragoza, Isla Margarita
Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
My last boat, a Cartwright 36 Pilothouse Cutter was also, IMO, very pretty. She is actually for sale again, it seems:
Custom Cartwright 36 Pilothouse Cutter - 1995 Used Boats For Sale | Oakville, Ontario
What I loved about her design, as well as the Corbin 39 and some of Ted Brewer's pilothouse boats such as the Pan Oceanic 38, 43 and 46, is that they were flush-deck forward of the pilothouse. This makes the boat much more balanced in appearance (rather than having the pilothouse look like an addition) and enables good visibility from the cockpit, which is where you will still be helming the majority of the time. To enable visibility foward from the interior helm station, the boat should also have a relatively flat sheer or, as in my former Cartwright, a sheer that flattens forward.
Brad
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10-01-2013, 14:55
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#82
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Winnipeg
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Posts: 8,462
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
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Ooh, that Nordhavn looks nice! Does it sail decently to windward? Tack? I would hate to have to depend on an engine to make it go somewhere.
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Yes she does sail nicely. There is a video on the Nordhavn site of her sailing in reasonably light winds and tacking. PAE built sailboats before they built trawler yachts.
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10-01-2013, 15:42
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#83
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New Orleans
Boat: Bruce Roberts 44 Ofshore
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
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Originally Posted by westsail374
Very affordable, no doubt. 
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It will be very affordable, when I win the Powerball. I do my part. I just need those incompetent bumblers to draw the correct numbers.
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10-01-2013, 16:49
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#84
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Portugal/Med
Boat: Comet 41s
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
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Originally Posted by DeepFrz
Yes she does sail nicely. There is a video on the Nordhavn site of her sailing in reasonably light winds and tacking. PAE built sailboats before they built trawler yachts.
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Yes, better than I thought, but even so pretty slow and at 60º.
Nordhavn 56 Sailing .mov - YouTube!
That is in flat water. With bad weather and waves and bad weater, without a proper keel, I doubt the boat can make it upwind without motorsailing.
Anyway those boats have a great engine and the sailing here is really for downwind with lot's of wind or just to motorsail.
Here you have another test and the tester does not seem so optimistic about the sail performance ... but is quite impressed with the interior
I guess that if someone has that kind of money and want to sail in comfort one of these is a better choice:
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10-01-2013, 17:37
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#85
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Boat: Bestevaer 49
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
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Originally Posted by Nessus
The best in my opinion. The Nordhavn 56MS

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Seems to me you would be living indoors on a boat like that!
Six months of the year, apart from time spent cooking and sleeping, I live primarily in the cockpit under a huge boom tent. That is one of the best bits about sailing  . This would simply not be possible in comfort on a boat like the Nordhavn.
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10-01-2013, 17:57
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#86
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Boston, MA
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
Bruckman 50
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10-01-2013, 18:55
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#87
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Winnipeg
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
Polux, the Amel is not a pilot house boat. It is open center cockpit with a hard dodger.
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11-01-2013, 11:34
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#88
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Wherever our boat is; Playa Zaragoza, Isla Margarita
Boat: 1994 Solaris Sunstream 40
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
To me, the Nordhaven is a motor-sailer, not a pilothouse sailboat per se.
Brad
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12-01-2013, 19:46
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#89
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Durham, NC
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
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Originally Posted by Southern Star
To me, the Nordhaven is a motor-sailer, not a pilothouse sailboat per se.
Brad
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Well, ya know, when one must get to a certain point at a certain time - to meet someone, to drop someone off so they can make their air reservation, or to miss bad weather, etc., - every boat is a motor-sailor at some time or another!
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12-01-2013, 23:15
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#90
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Arctic Ocean
Boat: Under construction 35' ketch (and +3 smaller)
Posts: 3,077
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Re: Best Pilothouse Sailboat?
Nordhavns are pigs in every way, and never nothing anyone can say in the same sentence with sail or sailing. Over powered, fat and thirsty pigs.. IMHO
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