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04-11-2018, 11:21
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#76
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Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 132
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Re: Best Blue Water 40 Ft. Boats from the 90's
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Originally Posted by VChild
Thanks Juggerknot.
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04-11-2018, 14:41
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#77
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Liveaboards
Boat: Brewer 44
Posts: 114
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Re: Best Blue Water 40 Ft. Boats from the 90's
My wife and I live aboard a Brewer 44. Its a great boat and reasonably priced, if you can find one for sale. Here is a picture of ours on the cover of Good Old Boat magazine.
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04-11-2018, 15:39
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#78
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Boston
Boat: Farr 40 (Racing), Contest 43 (Cruising)
Posts: 950
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Re: Best Blue Water 40 Ft. Boats from the 90's
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Originally Posted by KeelMe
The poor guy is asking for yachts he may not have heard of. He's not asking for us to tell him what yacht to buy.
If he was asking us to tell him what yacht to buy I'd have to insist it be a Hallberg-Rassy.
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Here is a link for the poor guy... 
www.yachtworld.com
All the boats are there already... you can start from A. and the broker listings there are way more creative than us here. Best of luck.
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05-11-2018, 00:33
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#79
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Normandy, France
Boat: Westerly Oceanlord 12.3m
Posts: 125
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Re: Best Blue Water 40 Ft. Boats from the 90's
I sail a 41 foot Westerly Oceanlord and can recommend it for comfort, speed, ease of handling and build quality
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05-11-2018, 02:48
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#80
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Annapolis, Maryland
Boat: 1967 Alberg 30
Posts: 289
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Re: Best Blue Water 40 Ft. Boats from the 90's
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Originally Posted by DeValency
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Here is a link for the poor guy...
www.yachtworld.com
All the boats are there already... you can start from A. and the broker listings there are way more creative than us here. Best of luck.
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That's kind of what I'm doing as well. But as to boats I've never heard of... If it's not on Sailboatlistings or YW, then it's probably unobtainium anyway, and off my radar. I will begin seriously looking for boats right after the holidays are over. I don't want to fall in love with some boat that I may have to wait years to obtain.
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06-11-2018, 07:26
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#81
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Bumping around the Caribbean
Boat: Valiant 40
Posts: 4,625
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Best Blue Water 40 Ft. Boats from the 90's
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Originally Posted by VChild
I don’t disagree that many newer boats have better performance specs due to high tech cored materials that make them lighter and faster, but I’m not so sure they generally outperform in comfort and sea-kindly motion offshore in heavy weather when compared to a few of the older, heavier designs of the same size.
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I set foot on a Lord Nelson 41 for the first time this past week. What a spectacular boat. While the example I was on needed some work (and the owner is chipping away at it), the bones, and the interior specifically, are extraordinary.
And while bringing a boat like this back to within spitting distance of bristol condition will cost you more than a new Bene or similar of the same size, you have to consider the replacement cost. A new boat of the fit and finish level of a Lord Nelson would likely run you up past $1mm as it would basically be custom.
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06-11-2018, 08:11
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#82
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Boston
Boat: Farr 40 (Racing), Contest 43 (Cruising)
Posts: 950
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Re: Best Blue Water 40 Ft. Boats from the 90's
It is all a matter of budget. I guess very few are looking to spend more than $200K on a serious blue water cruiser - and on that range you can find a nice good breed 40-50’ boat from the 90’s.
If you have up to $100K including refit, you hardly find a reasonable boat of more than 38-40’ from the 90’s. I wouldn’t recommend this size size range for blue water cruising - not these days and not with people expectations of comfort.
Yes, if you do a lot of serious legwork over time and ready to take a project boat and spend the time and money, you can find rare bargains at $40-50K plus direct refit costs of at least $30K. And you need to have really good engineering skills.
Of course there are hard to find very unusual exceptions but as a rule of thumb, these are the expected numbers.
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06-11-2018, 15:26
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#83
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rochford, Essex. UK
Boat: Hunter 430
Posts: 101
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Re: Best Blue Water 40 Ft. Boats from the 90's
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Originally Posted by DeValency
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Apart from that you are lucky to sail (or plan sailing) in one of the best areas in the world! In New England we have such a short season and much less to enjoy on the two sides of our pond (you have Italy - our other side is Ireland.... 😱 
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Cant argue with you about the sailing area. I bought my 2nd boat there in 2007 with the intention of sailing her back to the UK. She was moored on the island of Korcula. By the time I had looked her over and where she lay, I had falen in love with the place.
Not sure how long the Hunter will be staying there though. I have the mooring till the end of June and then will have a few months in the Adriatic and the Greek Isles. After that we might stay in Korcula for another 10 months or alternatively head out of the Med and go whichever way the wind is blowing - it’s a lottery
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06-11-2018, 16:43
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#84
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Sozopol
Boat: Riva 48
Posts: 1,409
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Best Blue Water 40 Ft. Boats from the 90's
I second the Hallberg-Rassy recommendation. It is the optimal blue water boat, especially post 1992. The thing with HR is that once you have been on board for a few days to appreciate the finer details you do not want to talk about other boats, compare, argue and discuss. You just enjoy what you have. Similar for Amel, Swan, Little Harbor, etc.
Also, please note that while it is cool to have a heavily built boat that does not creak in heavy weather, most of the time you will be sailing in 10-15 knots and any boat can take that.
Personally, I would emphasize easy of maintenance, light and layout over overbuilt. If you enjoy the layout and the light, you will smile every day you are on the boat. You would only get to enjoy the overbuilt ness the 3% of the time you will sail in excess of 35 knots. Although, to be fair my H31 starts creaking and complaining above 22-25 knots but it is not very loud at first
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06-11-2018, 20:06
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#85
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 221
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Re: Best Blue Water 40 Ft. Boats from the 90's
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Originally Posted by Suijin
I set foot on a Lord Nelson 41 for the first time this past week. What a spectacular boat. While the example I was on needed some work (and the owner is chipping away at it), the bones, and the interior specifically, are extraordinary.
And while bringing a boat like this back to within spitting distance of bristol condition will cost you more than a new Bene or similar of the same size, you have to consider the replacement cost. A new boat of the fit and finish level of a Lord Nelson would likely run you up past $1mm as it would basically be custom.
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Yeah that's kind of how I analyzed it.
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06-11-2018, 20:45
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#86
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 221
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Re: Best Blue Water 40 Ft. Boats from the 90's
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Originally Posted by Pizzazz
I second the Hallberg-Rassy recommendation. It is the optimal blue water boat, especially post 1992. The thing with HR is that once you have been on board for a few days to appreciate the finer details you do not want to talk about other boats, compare, argue and discuss. You just enjoy what you have. Similar for Amel, Swan, Little Harbor, etc.
Also, please note that while it is cool to have a heavily built boat that does not creak in heavy weather, most of the time you will be sailing in 10-15 knots and any boat can take that.
Personally, I would emphasize easy of maintenance, light and layout over overbuilt. If you enjoy the layout and the light, you will smile every day you are on the boat. You would only get to enjoy the overbuilt ness the 3% of the time you will sail in excess of 35 knots. Although, to be fair my H31 starts creaking and complaining above 22-25 knots but it is not very loud at first 
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It sounds like you are describing day sailing and coastal cruising conditions. The OP was asking about crossing oceans. Big difference. Or are you saying a boat to cross oceans doesn't need to be capable of handling extreme conditions because the percentage of time it happens is low?
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