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26-11-2010, 17:07
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#46
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
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The Saltymonkey bendie boat potential list
Oceanis 331 - 2001
Oceanis 321 - 87
Beneteau 35 - <=1986
Beneteau 38 - <=1988
Beneteau 40.5 - ???
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26-11-2010, 17:42
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#47
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
Posts: 7,260
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trash talk
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
This isn't trash talk.
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You make an interesting claim, not to be talking trash.
In post number 29 of this thread, after you admit that, "...I've been mocking the bendy-boats for a while now on here" you go on to detail the following reaction you had to inspecting a boat during a recent boat show:
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Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
My reaction: it was one of the most flimsly Ikea doll houses I've ever been on. I thought it couldn't withstand anything close to water without all the glue and screws coming apart. The wheel was so big I couldn't get around it in the cockpit and it probably would send me flying overboard in 10 knots. I couldn't wait to get off it.
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If that's not trash talk, then we at least have to call it "hyperbole." You thought the wheel on a 35 footer was so big "it probably would send me flying overboard in 10 knots" ?? Really?
I've never owned a Beneteau, and am unlikely ever to do so. But I'm a rational enough person to suspect that Beneteau would never have become the largest boat manufacturer in the world if they built yachts that "couldn't withstand anything close to water without all the glue and screws coming apart."
Is it too much to ask for rational discourse here?
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26-11-2010, 17:48
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#48
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 20,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash
Is it too much to ask for rational discourse here?
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Probably, Bash, probably...
Jim
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26-11-2010, 18:22
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#50
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash
You thought the wheel on a 35 footer was so big "it probably would send me flying overboard in 10 knots" ?? Really?
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Yes I would. There is no room to maneuver around it, and I had a difficult time getting around it just to get inside the cabin. I cannot imagine moving forward to grab a sheet or change without el monkey landing in the bay in a slight uplift.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash
I've never owned a Beneteau, and am unlikely ever to do so. But I'm a rational enough person to suspect that Beneteau would never have become the largest boat manufacturer in the world if they built yachts that "couldn't withstand anything close to water without all the glue and screws coming apart."
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Why not? How does BIG equate to quality? We could equally attribute it to either a ton of marketing or cheap manufactured quality for mass distribution.
But i digress, if you will give me one.
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26-11-2010, 18:27
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#51
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Seaman, Delivery skipper


Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 29,753
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
But i digress, if you will give me one.
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Dangerous words in England mate.....
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26-11-2010, 18:30
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#52
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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ROFL boatman!
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26-11-2010, 20:13
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#53
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: Beneteau FIRST 42
Posts: 1,836
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Salty,
In the last 6 months, you've ranted and raved about every model of every boat ever built, Beneteau more than once.......you stand against them until the flavor of the forum changes and then you change with it,,
you might, being in San Francisco, with one of the largest sailing venues in the world, start crewing on some of these boats and come back with honest first hand experance and not just hear-say....
Many clubs around the bay run mid-winters and most all boats are looking for additional people to crew...
Turn the lap-top off and get out on the water and gain some experance...
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26-11-2010, 20:45
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#54
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Thank you Randy for your concern and well voiced advice. I've had my fill of crewing for sure too much. I wish I had the time to take that measure again for my own survey - the monkey boat list is getting quite short. But alas, I have many SaltyMonkey responsibilities at the moment to break away from this winter - some that will put me closer to that boatsky of my dream$$$! Perhaps in the spring when the clouds part and SaltyMonkey will see the sun. But then again I may be back east in Annapolis again.
However, if you need your boat washed and polished, your head cleaned, and your keel bolts tightened when you are up this way again, I will of course oblige. Why? Because I am SaltyMonkey - the monkey of the sea.
Diesel mechanic repair class is next...
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26-11-2010, 21:06
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#55
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: Beneteau FIRST 42
Posts: 1,836
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
when you are up this way again,
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Up from where, Hell I'm in the delta.........and the bay.......we were back down in Berkley last weekend, and had a great spinnaker run back up to fresher water.. Grass dont grow under this keel..........
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26-11-2010, 21:12
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#56
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Long Island
Boat: Beneteau 343 Island Time
Posts: 9
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I sail a 343 Beneteau (35.5') about 1,000 miles/year. The boat is a little tender at 15 kts of wind but sails well in 30kts with the main furled in the mast and has never been an issue. The entire cabin sole is removable to the outside hull, which I have not seen in many production boats. The cockpit wheel swings to the port when not needed, the larger boats have twin helms. It points well and seems to be quicker then most of the production in my area. The starboard lazzerette is quite large for storage and the rear bunk is huge. The interior layout is very usable and spacious.
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27-11-2010, 07:49
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#57
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Randyonr3
Up from where, Hell I'm in the delta.........and the bay.......we were back down in Berkley last weekend, and had a great spinnaker run back up to fresher water.. Grass dont grow under this keel..........
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What!!! Holy Smokes!!!! I thought you were way south of the border with all the other Bendie Boat pods! The pods travel down there from the northern eating grounds once a year where they mate and have baby Bennies.
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27-11-2010, 08:42
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#58
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman61
****... if we manage it... that'll line up with the 'Loaves n Fishes' or 'Walkin on Water'......
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Been a bit of Woo waved around recently (I guess the chance to use dead folks as an opportunity to spout *****, with little chance of being called up on, is a temptation too hard to resist  ) - so walkin' on bread smoking a fish as a subject would fit in well
Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman61
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
But i digress, if you will give me one.
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Dangerous words in England mate.....
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I think CF also already has a thread for that subject
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...oup-27800.html
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27-11-2010, 10:11
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#59
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sant Carles, S Spain
Boat: 30ft Catalac 900 "Rubessa"
Posts: 876
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Just thought i'd be another one to add nothing to this thread. A simple question, basicaly 'what do the different Benny models mean?' has resulted in FIVE pages of pro-anti Benny/plastic/iron keels/in mast furling/tankage/performance/quilty/style/production boats/etc, etc.
Thanks for a most entertaining half hour reading it!!!
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