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Old 01-12-2015, 09:36   #31
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Re: Beneteau 473 vis Beneteau Oceanis 473 what is difference?

WHY do I say that well simply because it is a fact and true.........google is your friend do some investigation

Farr yacht design 202....

Design #202 BENETEAU FIRST 45f5, MOORINGS 445, OCEANIS 440 & OCEANIS 461
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Re: Beneteau 473 vis Beneteau Oceanis 473 what is difference?

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WHY do I say that well simply because it is a fact and true.........google is your friend do some investigation

Farr yacht design 202....

Design #202 BENETEAU FIRST 45f5, MOORINGS 445, OCEANIS 440 & OCEANIS 461
The fact is that the two boats have slightly different dimensions and that the design 202 is the one of the First 45f5 and the one of the Oceanis 461 is the 202/OC .
The Moorings 445 is the same as the First 45f5 (design 202).

Don't know exactly what means OC on 202/OC. Maybe a modified design having as base the 202?

http://www.bavariaclub.nl/modellen/ontwerpers/Farr.pdf
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Old 01-12-2015, 17:09   #33
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The fact is that the two boats have slightly different dimensions and that the design 202 is the one of the First 45f5 and the one of the Oceanis 461 is the 202/OC .
The Moorings 445 is the same as the First 45f5 (design 202).

Don't know exactly what means OC on 202/OC. Maybe a modified design having as base the 202?

http://www.bavariaclub.nl/modellen/ontwerpers/Farr.pdf
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REALLY!!! it seems you are just a wee bit confused as a Moorings 445 is the same as an Oceanis 440 with different interior layout just as the Moorings 463 is a Oceanis 461 with a different interior layout. So both Beneteau and Bruce Farr got it wrong when they say the F45f5 and the O461 have identical hull shapes somehow I don't think so.

Don't be confused by various dimensions you see online as these boats appear to have variable OAL, WLL and beam figures for inexplicable reasons, doubly so when it is a boat advertised for sale.

You seem to want to argue and debate this point for some inexplicable reason, yet you admit that you dont know what 202/OC means. Yet the page you have posted the URL to lists the 202/OC as a 45 foot Racer/Cruiser even though the boats listed Oceanis 440 44CC and the Oceanis 461 are all cruising boats.

So from your page a 45f5 is the same as a M445 which is the same as an Oceanis 440 (without the interior Mooring requested changes) which seems to be a 202/OC 'design if that page is to be believed.....therefore it follows if that page is correct that the 45f5 hull shape is shared between the 45f5 the M445, the O440 the 44CC AND the O461 which is where we started from.

Sadly the Beneteau site does not appear to list the past models details any more.

BUT if you google "the differences between First 45f5 and Oceanis 461" you will get a number of links that say the two boats hulls are identical.
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