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Old 20-01-2023, 09:09   #1
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Question Bavaria 39 Cruiser - known issues, what to look into?

Hi,
As We went to 2nd stage of our plan to live-aboard, which is actually buying a boat, recently I've made an offer for Bavaria 39 Cruiser from 2006 (2007 model) which was accepted.
Boat generally looks good (on pictures and videos), keel bolts looks fine, there are some small defects, standing rigging is original and sails are 10 y/o, so probably both needs to be replaced but it was reflected in my offer. In next week I will travel to Croatia to view the boat so I would like to ask You for some help. Are there any known issues with those yachts that I should focus on? I know about leaks in general (stanchions, portholes etc) which appears to be problem in all Bavarias from those years, and problems with fridges.Anything else?
Could You recommend some surveyor (north of Croatia) who would be able to check the boat before mid of FEB?

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Old 03-02-2023, 13:59   #2
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Re: Bavaria 39 Cruiser - known issues, what to look into?

I followed one family on YT for a while that bought a 2006 Bavaria 46 in Athens. They had problems with the electrical system as their ex-charter was used to being plugged in every night to a harbour/marina and they now wanted to live on the boat full time off an anchor. They initially replaced the battery for new but it died within weeks due to over-discharging. They had to go to a big lithium battery bank to maintain their PCs/iPads/etc. plus critical loads online.

Not Bavaria specific:

All factory thru-hull fitting and valves
Surface cracks or crazing in the Gelcoat
Saltwater in the bilges
Engine wet muffler fittings and muffler condition and wire chaffing.

HULL AND DECK
GEL COAT injuries. If possible, check the joints of the hull and deck
Fence quality - sealing at the points of attachment (if not tight, there are traces of limescale inside below the place of attachment)
Structural changes of the GEL COAT around the attachment of the extensions
Structural changes of the GEL COAT around the anchor winch
MAST, BUM, RIG
Mast - signs of oxidation (if they are visible on the outside then the condition on the hidden parts is even worse)
Suffixes - thickness, when they were replaced, signs of oxidation
Crosses (must be placed horizontally)
Stern extension (changes in the material on the mirror wall)
Forestay
Backstay adjuster (pulley, mechanics, hydraulics)
Condition of suffixes inside, signs of deformation, oxidation,…
Tangun, Wang
SAILS, ROPES
Mainsail (size, tactile use, UV protection)
Genoa (size, touch, UV protection)
The sails remained
Ropes (condition, wear, replacement required, ()
WINCHES
Mainsail winches (classic, ST, company, size, 2 speed)
Winches genoe sails (classic, ST, company, size, 2 speed)
Stoppers, Scots, Trevelers?
Additional winches (spinnaker, genaker)
What cleats look like - check the places where they are attached
ANCHOR WINCH
Power, connectors, switches (when serviced, brush replacement), wear of sprocket pulling chain. Where's the fuse?
Chain (length, age, wear, signs of corrosion)
Anchor, model, weight, ..
STEERING MECHANISM!
The handlebars must turn effortlessly, there must be no "play"
Steering bearing condition, signs of damage,…
Water signs - ATTENTION !!!! Inspect the rudder axis location (signs of cracks !!!!)
The view of the steering mechanism must be OK (pulley or cable condition, flywheel)
BIMINI, SPREYHOOD
Bimini - Workmanship, quality, signs of wear
Spray hood - workmanship, quality, central window opening for better ventilation? Covers
KEEL
Check the plastic around the keel and peek with the battery into all the hidden places
Keel bolts (brass - must be visible, RF - signs of rust attention, RF - nuts coated with epoxy resin and visible signs of rust - even more attention). In the latter case, they probably rust along their entire length (invisible to us). Very expensive exercise !!!
Bilge pump
ENGINE
Number of engine hours - check the engine mounts, shaft mounting or. condition of the tire around the drive heel, check the oil in the engine / transmission (if there is an emulsion (presence of water in the oil) - run away)
Check the V-belts!
(no meter or broken??)
When was the last service performed (filters, oil - how much, what qualities)
When was the impeller replaced? Spare impeller !!!!
Signs of corrosion, oil (head cover leaks, head gasket !!!!)
Color deviation (if somewhere other than on the collector then this is a sign of engine overheating)
Check the oil (signs of water in the oil - say goodbye to the purchase unless this fact is taken into account in the price of the vessel)
Engine compartment ventilation
Fuel tank - liters, construction material (better INOX)
Test drive - vibrations ?, strange sounds ?, exhaust - white smoke (burns oil), black smoke (poor combustion), water vapor (clogged engine cooling system)
ELECTRICITY
Starting (Piece ____ / _________ Ah)
Service ( ____ / ________ Ah)
Battery charger (shore)
Alternator (power)
Auxiliary energy sources (solar, wind generator, (.)
Additional wiring status ("nuts nest"*
?)
Check the lights
WATER
Water tank - liters, construction material (better INOX)
The kitchen
Shower in the stern and bathroom - check the pressure valve, check the operation of the submersible pump / shower in the bathroom
Hot water - water heater ?, heating method, size in liters?
Water pipes - check the quality and condition of all valves, how they open / close, whether there are two clamps on the pipes (mandatory !!)
INSTRUMENTS
Three data - does everything work ?, there must be a service plug !!
Compass (air bubble signs,…)
ChartPloter - which maps does it use?
Autopilot - If installed on the bike, check the condition of the pulley and transmissions
Wind instrument - check if the wheel is spinning in a light wind!
UNDERWATER PART OF THE DRIVE
When was the oil changed in the fifth drive? Were the oil seals replaced?
In the case of a shaft, the sealing and sliding bearing, shaft diameter, ever replaced
When was the zinc protector replaced?
Propeller type
ANTIFOULING
When was the last time a sailboat was on a dry winter berth?
Anti osmosis coating
Anti fouling coating
MANDATORY AND ACCESSORIES
Auxiliary engine (age, power, documentation)
Bay boat
Fire extinguisher (condition, expiration date, number,…)
Life jackets
Rockets
Fenders, lifebuoy pod
UNDER THE DECK - INTERIOR
Wear of cushions, upholstery, how to open and close doors, visible damage, sealing windows,
There are empty holes from the screws (equipment removed)….
KITCHEN
Refrigerator (capacity, insulation, compressor)
Stove (everything works, age of gas pipes, ..)
Bow cab
Bed condition
Check all lockers, lights, doors, deck windows
etc...

Also:
Marine Survey 101

I really liked reading this one before my last survey (has a long section on surveys):
Don Casey's Complete Illustrated Sailboat Maintenance Manual: Including Inspecting the Aging Sailboat, Sailboat Hull and Deck Repair, Sailboat Refinishing, Sailboat
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Old 05-02-2023, 02:51   #3
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Re: Bavaria 39 Cruiser - known issues, what to look into?

as with any boat of significant size and price, to see it on land and on the water for test.

@svtickles has listed most of the points to check ...
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Old 05-02-2023, 04:51   #4
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Keels and steering (bearings) seem the most common reported.
https://forums.ybw.com/index.php?thr...roblems.267561
https://forums.ybw.com/index.php?thr...problem.160498

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Old 08-02-2023, 03:53   #5
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Re: Bavaria 39 Cruiser - known issues, what to look into?

Thanks, I've reviewed boat initially also basing on feedback on Bavaria users forum, Ill post it here as maybe it will be helpful for others looking for Bavaria boat bavariayacht.org/forum/index.php?topic=1931.0,
Proper survey and sea trails on next weekend so fingers crossed.
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Re: Bavaria 39 Cruiser - known issues, what to look into?

Let us know how it goes, and good luck!
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Old 22-02-2023, 13:03   #7
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She's ours! Adventure awaits! (but first some maintanance)
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Re: Bavaria 39 Cruiser - known issues, what to look into?

Congrats. By chance we went on board a friends Bavaria 39 a few weeks ago. Nice boat and liked the layout inside.

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Re: Bavaria 39 Cruiser - known issues, what to look into?

Looking nice. Enjoy.
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Re: Bavaria 39 Cruiser - known issues, what to look into?

Please post more details if not a secret (and pictures)!
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Old 23-02-2023, 01:42   #11
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Congrats!
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Congratulations. You won't regret being a Bavaria owner. Enjoy!
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deutsche qualität !
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Re: Bavaria 39 Cruiser - known issues, what to look into?

Quote:
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She's ours! Adventure awaits! (but first some maintanance)

how much you pay, maybe i sale my Bavaria. maybe i put price 80-85000€ for my bavaria 38 privat use with paid tax.
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