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08-02-2012, 06:46
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Aussie Woman Falls Overboard from Yacht Near Phuket
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08-02-2012, 06:48
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Re: Aussie woman falls overboard from yacht near Phuket
Agreed.
Brad
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08-02-2012, 10:38
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Re: Aussie Woman Falls Overboard from Yacht Near Phuket
Very sad.
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08-02-2012, 10:57
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Re: Aussie woman falls overboard from yacht near Phuket
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Originally Posted by boatman61
One of those incidents you can count on one hand... sad she was one of the fingers...
Maybe a seek and find retrieval technique IS as important as prevention...
See Gal Overboard Thread...
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Important yes but as important? I don't think so. The chances of finding someone are very slim and in many waters the chance that they will be alive is even slimmer. Prevention is your best bet.
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08-02-2012, 11:04
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Re: Aussie Woman Falls Overboard from Yacht Near Phuket
Doesn't take much. Fall in the water while someone is below taking a nap. Come up half an hour later and good luck on that search. Boat will have traveled maybe two and a half miles? If you have some dead-on set and drift calculations and know what you're doing you might be able to get back to the right spot, if they're still alive and floating wearing a PFD.
The plus side to this is that for every drowning there are literally tens of thousands of boats around the world with substandard safety procedures who aren't having any problems.
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08-02-2012, 11:12
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Re: Aussie Woman Falls Overboard from Yacht Near Phuket
On the way to the Marquesas, decided to do a man overboard drill. We were sailing wing and wing in 10knot wind with 6'-8' long ocean rollers. I tossed an old life jacket overboard and called my wife up to man the tiller and keep an eye on the MOB while I got the pole down so we could come about and power back. By the time I had the pole and sails under control, and the engine started, we'd lost sight of the MOB. Powered up a reciprocal course but no joy. Within a very few moments we had no idea where to even look for the MOB. This was before the days of GPS so couldn't mark the spot where the MOB had occured. Without that position, searching was useless.
The absolute most important thing to do in an MOB is hit the MOB button on your GPS. Without that position, it's doubtful that an MOB could be found on a short handed cruising boat with any seas running.
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08-02-2012, 11:29
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Re: Aussie Woman Falls Overboard from Yacht Near Phuket
Thats a awful thing to happen for anyone. Prevention is the real answer At least to us !! Bob and Connie
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09-02-2012, 02:31
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Re: Aussie Woman Falls Overboard from Yacht Near Phuket
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Originally Posted by hummingway
Important yes but as important? I don't think so. The chances of finding someone are very slim and in many waters the chance that they will be alive is even slimmer. Prevention is your best bet.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman61
One of those incidents you can count on one hand... sad she was one of the fingers...
Maybe a seek and find retrieval technique IS as important as prevention...
See Gal Overboard Thread...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roverhi
On the way to the Marquesas, decided to do a man overboard drill. We were sailing wing and wing in 10knot wind with 6'-8' long ocean rollers. I tossed an old life jacket overboard and called my wife up to man the tiller and keep an eye on the MOB while I got the pole down so we could come about and power back. By the time I had the pole and sails under control, and the engine started, we'd lost sight of the MOB. Powered up a reciprocal course but no joy. Within a very few moments we had no idea where to even look for the MOB. This was before the days of GPS so couldn't mark the spot where the MOB had occured. Without that position, searching was useless.
The absolute most important thing to do in an MOB is hit the MOB button on your GPS. Without that position, it's doubtful that an MOB could be found on a short handed cruising boat with any seas running.
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Extermely sad.
This thread and the above type posts prompted me to start this thread.
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...tml#post882885
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07-10-2012, 16:05
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Re: Aussie Woman Falls Overboard from Yacht Near Phuket
The plot thickens.
Seems the Husband has a history of wives dying.
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07 October, 2012
Reporter: Mike Willesee
Producers: Alex Garipoli & Lisa Ryan
He’s a ruggedly handsome marine biologist whose first wife fell from a waterfall while they were hiking. His latest partner fell overboard from a luxury yacht while they were sailing.
Both women died leaving him a rich man. Both the loves of his life lost their lives in tragically similar circumstances. On both occasions he was the only other person there.
This special Mike Willesee investigation follows the dogged efforts of a loving brother, family and loyal friends who just don’t believe the official explanation about what happened out on the ocean, and just want some answers to how their beloved Carmel disappeared.
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Part 1
Without a trace: Part 1 - Sunday Night - Yahoo!7 News - Yahoo!7 TV
Part 2
Without a trace: Part 2 - Sunday Night - Yahoo!7 News - Yahoo!7 TV
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07-10-2012, 16:09
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Re: Aussie Woman Falls Overboard from Yacht Near Phuket
Which is why we don't let the media run court proceedings.
Which is not to say he did or didn't do anything, just that I have a pet haterd of sensationalist media.
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13-02-2015, 06:06
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Carmel Brookes - Aussie Woman Falls Overboard from Yacht Near Phuket
Update...
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Carmel Brookes disappearance: Properties searched, people questioned in AFP probe of woman who went missing on sailing trip in Thailand
By Josh Bavas
Updated February 04, 2015 08:06:50
Carmel Brookes and Gerry Goeden
PHOTO: Carmel Brookes went missing on a sailing trip with Gerry Goeden (left) three years ago. (Facebook: Gerry Goeden)
MAP: QLD
Properties have been searched and a number of people questioned as part of an investigation into the disappearance of a Queensland woman at sea.
This week marks three years since Carmel Brookes, 60, vanished while on a sailing trip off the coast of Thailand with her partner Gerry Goeden.
Mr Goeden told authorities he was sleeping below deck while Ms Brookes, from Queensland, was at the helm as they sailed between Langkawi and Phuket.
He said when he woke up, she was gone.
ABC News can reveal the Australian Federal Police (AFP), who have formed a special investigative team with Queensland Police Service, are progressing with an investigation and have spent months trying to piece together her final moments.
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Carmel Brookes disappearance: Properties searched, people questioned in AFP probe of woman who went missing on sailing trip in Thailand - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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13-02-2015, 08:03
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Re: Aussie Woman Falls Overboard from Yacht Near Phuket
The MOB situation is certainly my greatest fear about sailing. I recently bought a couple of R-10 personal AIS transmitters for our life jackets. Hope we never have to use them.
They're only good for about 4 miles, so if no one knows you've got an MOB, it won't help after several minutes at a decent sailing speed.
I wish there was something better, some sort of all-in-one device that would sound a high-intensity alert and combine AIS and EPIRB.
We always tether in when it's rough, but accidents can happen in any weather.
Fair winds,
Leo
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