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Old 17-12-2021, 07:37   #31
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Re: Anyone familiar with a Havis 33? Very rare can't find anything

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I'll play devils advocate here. It's common that house prices go up. In California at least 4% a year but recently more. I have seen people sell their homes, go cruising, only to come back to an increased market they can no longer buy into. Plus...cruising is not cheap.

Maybe you're not going cruising in which case, now you have slip rent and yearly boat maintenance. For a Force 50 with liveaboard status, plan on paying at least $1000 a month. I would also guess maintenance on a Force 50 in the water is going to be in the neighborhood of $6000-10,000 a year. More if you're buying s fixer. A Force 50 being a teak decked Taiwan boat, is likely to have water intrusion problems either now of in the future. Often times but the time soft decks are detected, the damage is done and the money to fix it would drain your back account quickly.
4%???? a year in California???
Think again, my properties in California have increased in the 15-20% range a year for the past few years.
I WILL STAY A “DIRT PERSON “ thank you!!!
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Old 17-12-2021, 07:45   #32
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Re: Anyone familiar with a Havis 33? Very rare can't find anything

Also look at the Tung Hwa Diana Cutter 34
https://youtu.be/TevrpeFtPug
https://m.facebook.com/Tung-Hwa-34-113913570008096/
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Old 17-12-2021, 08:37   #33
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[QUOTE no help here but I must say I am so envious of your project boat! Wish you lived near me and I could donate time to assist you with my various and sundry marginal skills. Some are good some not and I do know the difference. Good luck !=DerrickFettig;3534828]Owned her for a few months now but there seems to be no information at all on her. The closest boat that matches her is a young sun 35. She was built in 1981.[/QUOTE]
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4%???? a year in California???
Think again, my properties in California have increased in the 15-20% range a year for the past few years.
I WILL STAY A “DIRT PERSON “ thank you!!!
I was being conservative for sure. My ranch has gone up about 17% a year. I quoted low as not to get into a debate and to compare to sailboats on the market that "generally" decrease in value and cost each year to maintain.

I have known people who lived on their boats for 30+ years. It worked for them. I like the flexibility having both. I worked hard to have both.
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Sure does look like the same boat to me.
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Like "electrolysis" and "osmosis", "black iron" is just a cool sounding term that docktalkers have glommed onto.

On "electrolysis" and "osmosis" all one has to do is research the scientific meaning of these words to expose the mythology. A little research on the term "black iron" will reveal that it's an old (very old) plumbing slang term to differentiate between galvanized steel pipe and raw steel pipe based on colour but has no real meaning in metallurgical terms.
Yeppers~‘ Black Iron ‘ pipe is used for Residential Natural gas- its just non galvanized steel. Magnetic as well. Used as a cost saver.
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We had a Hans Christian 34. The hin on our boat was port side near the stearn just above the designed waterline. If the hull was painted it maybe hard to find
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Sorry starboard side
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Definitely some work to do but looks like some good bones.
I’d be surprised if it doesn’t sell
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Owned her for a few months now but there seems to be no information at all on her. The closest boat that matches her is a young sun 35. She was built in 1981.
If she's layed out with a pullman berth amidships, a rear starboard cabin and the head in the bow I'd say it's a HC33 clone out of the same yard. Great boats if that's what you've found.
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