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27-04-2016, 08:19
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#16
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 1
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
in spain , the Dufour 50 classic , from 1998 for 85.000 eur. 5 bedrooms . you can find it at the site inautic.com
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27-04-2016, 10:30
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,144
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
50k pounds will not do it. For a ready to go boat with three staterooms your looking at maybe 160k pounds or more. Or $200k dollars. Oyster is the way to go. On a tight budget think you are limited to CTs, Formosas, and the like. Big, heavy ocean going boats based on the Garden designs. A 52 foot ct would give you three cabins and probably be around $125k.
Might reconsider steel given the reefs throughout the Pacific.
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27-04-2016, 12:46
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#19
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Salisbury UK
Boat: Wauquiez 43 PS
Posts: 62
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
Sign up with as many brokers as you can, and look at web sites like Boatshed. Whatever you choose, and it will inevitably be quite an old boat for that sort of budget, just make sure you have the most comprehensive survey done. You should factor that into your budget as well as insurance, and stuff that may need immediate replacement like running and standing riding, sails etc. Decide if you want sloop rig (probably) but perhaps with baby stay, ketch rig, or yawl. The look at the draft you want to accept; the deeper draft better for upwind sailing, but shallower draft means getting into more sheltered areas. That will lead to look at short fin keel or long fin keel, or long keel. I suspect bilge keel may not be what you want but don't ignore them.
May the best of luck and good fortune follow you in your quest.
SJFK
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27-04-2016, 15:16
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 31
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
If as you say you want a safe sturdy boat and there are small children involved, and you are heading across the pacific, I would not be thinking about a yacht with an unprotected spade rudder. I made that mistake with a Beneteau 43,3 cabin and on passage 300 miles offshore, the boat was knocked down, and after putting everything back into the cupboards and drawers that fell out, found we could not steer the boat and then watched with horror as parts of the rudder drifted away in the wash at the back of the boat. In my humble opinion Beneteau's are coastal cruisers and not built for offshore. The way they only tab the bulkheads to the hull and deck, leads to the boat creaking and making scary noises as the hull flex's in big seas. Horrible to listen to as you are many miles offshore. After I got back to NZ,I googled Beneteau rudder and found it was not uncommon for unprotected spade rudders to get destroyed. The boat only weighed 4 ton, so built very light. I am now looking at buying an Amel Super Maramu. They weigh 14 ton and have a skeg hung rudder that are very strong. If it involves small children offshore you want to be very safe.
For the kids, it would be an amazing experience. Eye opening, mind expanding stuff. Something they would never forget. You want them to remember the trip for the right reason.
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27-04-2016, 15:37
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#21
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 4
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
For some good insight into the Amel Super Maramu checkout SV Delos on YouTube. I believe theirs is a 2000 or 2001. The Amel 55 is my dream home.
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27-04-2016, 16:49
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#22
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,491
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
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Originally Posted by live the dream
This topic has probably been on here a thousand times before, but I'm still struggling in my quest to find a boat suitable for me and my family.
We are planning a Pacific crossing next year.
I'm after a sturdy, safe yacht with 3 cabins.
42'+
If anyone has any ideas on suitable yachts, please list below 👍🏻👍🏻
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C'mon. This is such a shortcut. Really. No google search where you live? ;-)
Let u know what boats YOU like: wooden classics, grp classics, racers, multihulls, motorsailors, steel, alloy, FERROCEMENT, etc?
To list all likely boats 42'+ would take a couple of screens easily.
What's your vision then?
b.
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27-04-2016, 20:17
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 18
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
Wouldn't take my kids to sea in a 3 ca - ah what's the point? Google!
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27-04-2016, 21:07
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 45
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
This one will definitely do it:
<http://vintageboatservices.com/lavranos_montevideo.htm>
JK
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01-05-2016, 08:13
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#25
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Marathon FL
Boat: Pearson 530
Posts: 9
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
Don't forget the Pearson 530. Center cockpit, 15 ft. beam, walk in engine room. Center queen island bed in aft stateroom. Three cabins, two heads with two STALL showers. Might be worth looking at? Three available on yachtworld now.
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03-05-2016, 18:13
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#27
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: floating around ... hopefully in aqua clear swimming pool water!
Boat: 1985 Passport 37
Posts: 172
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
Quote:
Originally Posted by live the dream
2 kids 6 and 9 are going to need their own space. So 3 cabins would be good. I can only find the Beneteau style boat with 3 cabins.
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We met a couple in a bright red 27' bluewater sailboat with two boys, ages 8 & 10 in Portobello, Panama. They left from England and were getting ready to transit the Panama Canal and head across the Pacific with a goal of circumnavigation.
No suggestions for a boat, just a comment.
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03-05-2016, 18:15
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 104
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lantau
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Im not the OP, not even a real sailor, but IMHO you've given solid, perhaps lifesaving advice, if OP is wise enough to listen. Thats one reason I havent bought a boat (or an airplane) yet. I cant afford that which I would be comfortable staking my life on.
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03-05-2016, 18:58
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#30
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 923
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Re: A solid blue water cruiser
I already asked the OP what boats he has eliminated. No answer so no serious research taking place.
Sounds like he just wants to have fun on a forum.
Nothing wrong with that of course.
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