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09-01-2015, 11:26
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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If any of you guys ever followed Dashew's ideas you would see it was about cored bulkheads and furniture, lighter and stronger than marine plywood but also way more expensive. No you will not see this type of construction in entry level production boats as it is just to high tech and very expensive. |
Leaving carbon aside, cored bulkheads and furniture are common on production catamarans. Cored panels are really not that expensive - finished 4'x8' sheets run about $200-250 (depending on core type and finish) retail in single sheets. I'm sure the price drops significantly for wholesale larger orders.
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09-01-2015, 11:33
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#32
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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Originally Posted by colemj
Leaving carbon aside, cored bulkheads and furniture are common on production catamarans. Cored panels are really not that expensive - finished 4'x8' sheets run about $200-250 (depending on core type and finish) retail in single sheets. I'm sure the price drops significantly for wholesale larger orders.
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Marine grade plywood goes out the door a little over $50.00 a sheet so a fair difference plus if the finish is a real high end veneer the costs of cored panels will be much more.
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09-01-2015, 11:33
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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Airex is also blue. In fact, many structural foam cores come in different colors that denote their densities/use. Are you sure Corecell doesn't do the same with theirs?
Perhaps they spec'd Corecell at the beginning, which made it onto their promo sheets, then changed their mind to another structural foam.
Mark
Edit: I just went to Gurit's (maker of corecell) website and see that they make this in a wide range of colors that denote density and application. You can get mauve and lilac also, if you like: http://www.gurit.com/files/documents...hurev10pdf.pdf
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Right you are. Also could be variations in color between batches.
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09-01-2015, 11:34
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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Originally Posted by robert sailor
Marine grade plywood goes out the door a little over $50.00 a sheet so a fair difference plus if the finish is a real high end veneer the costs of cored panels will be much more.
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Wow, last time I bought it (a long time ago), I paid much more than that.
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09-01-2015, 11:36
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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Wow, last time I bought it (a long time ago), I paid much more than that.
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What can I say!
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09-01-2015, 11:56
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
I can't even find marine grade plywood, at least not the Fl Panhandle, been thinking about using exterior plywood
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09-01-2015, 11:56
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
Not for me, looks like something nurse Ratched would lock you up in.
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09-01-2015, 12:15
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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OMG! A Hinkley bashing thread? Really?  |
Hinkley's are dark and cramped below, and you pay a premium for the name. Everyone knows that!
Now gimme one.
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09-01-2015, 12:27
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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I'll take a Morris for a lot less money.... |
That looks a lot like my Hunter interior. Nice.
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09-01-2015, 12:29
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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OMG! A Hinkley bashing thread? Really? |
It's only a "bashing" thread if you think these design and building techniques are bad. I don't. I think it's great that Hinckley is doing a good, smart thing here. Their market no longer seems to want what they did 30 years ago.
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09-01-2015, 13:02
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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09-01-2015, 13:04
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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I think it's great that Hinckley is doing a good, smart thing here. Their market no longer seems to want what they did 30 years ago.
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The only people who want what was available 30 years ago have salt water running through their veins. My last blood test revealed my sodium was a bit high. 
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09-01-2015, 13:06
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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Hey Julie,
You are a funny lady! I'm liking you all ready..
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09-01-2015, 13:09
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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It's only a "bashing" thread if you think these design and building techniques are bad. I don't. I think it's great that Hinckley is doing a good, smart thing here. Their market no longer seems to want what they did 30 years ago.
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On one post you equate the Hinckley fit and finish to your 25+ year old Hunter and the next post is no one wants what they built 25+ years ago.
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09-01-2015, 13:18
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Re: 2015 Hinkley Bermuda 50
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Originally Posted by smackdaddy
I think it's great that Hinckley is doing a good, smart thing here. Their market no longer seems to want what they did 30 years ago.
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Well, you've certainly got that right...
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