2012 Oceanis 41: What charter companies have this boat in their fleet?

[RKsailsolo]

The design changed from 2011 to 2012. After 2012, Beneteau applied the design features to the Oceanis 38 and now the 35. Ideally I am looking to get an out of charter oceanis 41 coming out of charter in 2016.

[Polux]

So many that does not make sense to refer all of them.

You have just to google for Oceanis 41 + location. I assume you want to have it near on in the US? Lot's of them on the Caribbean.

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by Polux

So many that does not make sense to refer all of them.
You have just to google for Oceanis 41 + location...

Or Oceanis 41 charter ➥ https://www.google.ca/search?q=Ocean...KoOqyAShzoGABA

[Polux]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Or Oceanis 41 charter ➥ https://www.google.ca/search?q=Ocean...KoOqyAShzoGABA

It seems I forger to mention the word charter, that obviously is necessary

[SaltyMetals]

I owned the Beneteau Oceanis 400 (1992: hull number ONE) for about 15 years and continue to sail on her with a friend. The Oceanis 41 was a development from the Oceanis 400. I know very little about the Oceanis 41 but can assure you that the original Oceanis 400 is an excellent boat. Hull Number ONE was launched in (UK) spring 1992 and is still going strong. An excellent construction for a size for which many others were asking double the cost.

I saw a number of the Oceanis 400's constructed in the US as Moorings but IMHO they were not the same standard of finish as the original French built boats.

[oceanis393]

Good morning, I do sail a Oceanis build in 2002 and a HR. The Oceanis is a fine boat and still going strong. BUT: I would NEVER buy a boat which has been under charter. They are used up and warn out when for sale... (I had a charter company :-))

[bigman1]

Originally Posted by oceanis393

Good morning, I do sail a Oceanis build in 2002 and a HR. The Oceanis is a fine boat and still going strong. BUT: I would NEVER buy a boat which has been under charter. They are used up and warn out when for sale... (I had a charter company :-))

How do you "wear a boat out" ok regular grounding on a coral reef might help.
I have 1967 seadog 30 bought her in 2009 in pristine condition,enormous build
displaces 7 tons. The op would get a good deal if he bargains and have plenty left for a mild refurb.

[Privleoplag]

Originally Posted by oceanis393

Good morning, I do sail a Oceanis build in 2002 and a HR. The Oceanis is a fine boat and still going strong. BUT: I would NEVER buy a boat which has been under charter. They are used up and warn out when for sale... (I had a charter company :-))

Now there's one charter company I would NEVER buy a boat from!

[RKsailsolo]

Originally Posted by Privleoplag

Now there's one charter company I would NEVER buy a boat from!

Amen to that. At least he was honest.

That's why I've ruled out B and C tier charter boats. Only interested in top competitors phase outs. That short list includes Morrings, Sunsail, Dreamyacht. What other top charter outfits am I missing?

[RKsailsolo]

Originally Posted by bigman1

How do you "wear a boat out" ok regular grounding on a coral reef might help.

I have 1967 seadog 30 bought her in 2009 in pristine condition,enormous build

displaces 7 tons. The op would get a good deal if he bargains and have plenty left for a mild refurb.

Yes, that aligns with my thinking that the A charter outfits would not buy fragile designed boats. Buy it right, do the upgrades and it seems to make sense.

[Saleen411]

Originally Posted by RKsailsolo

Amen to that. At least he was honest.

That's why I've ruled out B and C tier charter boats. Only interested in top competitors phase outs. That short list includes Morrings, Sunsail, Dreamyacht. What other top charter outfits am I missing?

The Catamaran Company

Horizon Yacht Charters

CYOA Yacht Charters

[Greenhand]

Originally Posted by bigman1

How do you "wear a boat out" ok regular grounding on a coral reef might help.
I have 1967 seadog 30 bought her in 2009 in pristine condition,enormous build
displaces 7 tons. The op would get a good deal if he bargains and have plenty left for a mild refurb.

We only looked at one charter boat when we were hunting, but it was the newest and the most worn of all the boats we looked at. Things were broken off and hadn't been repaired, the deck showed more wear than boats twice its age. It was definitely a case of "If it looks like this, I wonder what is hiding behind all of that?!"

[Polux]

Originally Posted by Greenhand

We only looked at one charter boat when we were hunting, but it was the newest and the most worn of all the boats we looked at. Things were broken off and hadn't been repaired, the deck showed more wear than boats twice its age. It was definitely a case of "If it looks like this, I wonder what is hiding behind all of that?!"

Not hard to explain. Charter boats normally are sold after 10 years of use and are used all the time during the high season and probably half the time at least during the lower season. That corresponds to the use of a boat on about 5 permanent months a year, careless use, since people that use it are not their owners and many times inexperienced sailors.

You can find many 10 year old boats that are used by the owner less than a month a year, including holidays and weekends and some used by some very careful owners that have pride in their boat and have it in pristine condition.

So, a charter boat can be a 5 times more used boat than a similarly aged identical boat....and the use of the charter boat typically is a careless one, so what would you expect?

That's why used ex charter boats are less expensive than owner's boats of the same age.

[RKsailsolo]

Thanks Saleen. I will look at their fleets.

And also appreciate Greenhand's post which prompted Paulo's response. The proposition for me is to acquire a larger boat than I would normally buy as the cost of it is 20 to 35% less than same boat from non commercial private party. A factor that makes this proposition less viable is the Ida that charter companies don't phase out for ten years. Was thinking more like five for this specific Oceanis model (2012).

[GordMay]

There seems to be quite a variability in the age of charter phase outs

Between 4 to 12 years old, but usually 5 in the case of yachts operated by Tui Marine, the parent company of both Sunsail and Moorings

ie ➥ http://www.mooringsbrokerage.com/use....php?boatclass[]=Sail+Catamaran&boatclass[]=Power+Catamaran&currency=USD&minlength=Min+Length &maxlength=Max+Length&units=feet&minyear=Min+Year& maxyear=Max+Year&name=Boat+Name&SimpleSearch=Searc h+Yachts