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13-02-2017, 13:06
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
Mike, it's still cheaper and easier to go southabout. Later, if you can get to Barrow, you can make the milk run back to Labradour
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13-02-2017, 13:22
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
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Originally Posted by jdazey
Wow, I just made a reply to a post that disappeared. Sorry about that.
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I know! I saw my first-ever post disappear, then thought, "okay, just re-post, but leave out anything construable as political"... and made the same (albeit wrong) basic observation  .
thx for explaining that
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13-02-2017, 13:27
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
I'm definitely considering it, but it will be a few more years in the future, got plenty of the north Atlantic and most likely the Med to explore before that. Thanks for keeping the thread active.
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13-02-2017, 13:36
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
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More Fake News? 
what's with the "thermometer" equivalencies in that image... sorry Washington Post (and the "Climate Change Institute/University of Maine"), but Farenheit "zero" and Celcius "zero" do not equate... back to the drawing board[/QUOTE]
mooka2, mooka2, mooka2...
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13-02-2017, 14:33
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
No problem. For a while there I thought I was losing it. My wife says there's not doubt
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Originally Posted by mooka2
I know! I saw my first-ever post disappear, then thought, "okay, just re-post, but leave out anything construable as political"... and made the same (albeit wrong) basic observation  .
thx for explaining that
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13-02-2017, 15:21
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
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Originally Posted by topmast
Mike, it's still cheaper and easier to go southabout. Later, if you can get to Barrow, you can make the milk run back to Labradour
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I’m sure you’re correct TM, but neither of us like crowds or touristy areas. And I hate the heat. I find Lake Ontario sailing (where we’ve been this last two years) to be Way Too Hot! I fear travelling further south.
This is one reason why we’re headed for to the Atlantic via the St. Lawrence, instead of taking the well-beaten route down the canals to NY. It’s a lot harder, although possibly cheaper.
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13-02-2017, 18:48
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
I went through, W to E in 2000. Challenging but not impossible. We saw a few boats that summer. It's LONG though - with a long way between gas stations and grocery stores.
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13-02-2017, 20:00
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
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Originally Posted by Scorpius99eh
I went through, W to E in 2000. Challenging but not impossible. We saw a few boats that summer. It's LONG though - with a long way between gas stations and grocery stores.
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Congrats. It must have been quite an achievement back then - did you have to do anything special to evade detection by the authorities. It looked like there was only one sailing vessel transiting W-E that year?
I had not realized that transiting is more common than records indicate....
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13-02-2017, 22:29
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
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Originally Posted by DeepFrz
More Fake News? 
what's with the "thermometer" equivalencies in that image... sorry Washington Post (and the "Climate Change Institute/University of Maine"), but Farenheit "zero" and Celcius "zero" do not equate... back to the drawing board
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mooka2, mooka2, mooka2...[/QUOTE]
Not to spoil your sarcasm but you missed the "delta" which has a specific meaning in science
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13-02-2017, 23:26
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
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Originally Posted by DeepFrz
More Fake News? 
what's with the "thermometer" equivalencies in that image... sorry Washington Post (and the "Climate Change Institute/University of Maine"), but Farenheit "zero" and Celcius "zero" do not equate... back to the drawing board
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Sorry Deep but you're misreading the graphic. The color range shows the DELTA, in degrees. Zero degrees delta in centigrade is zero degrees delta in farenheit.
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14-02-2017, 05:36
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
Mooka2 is the poster who missed the delta. His post then disappeared(?). The others are only quoting Mooka2 who has realized his mistake. No harm other than a little embarrassment.
Cheers,
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15-02-2017, 04:15
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
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15-02-2017, 13:25
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
Both Arctic sea ice volumes and extent are at record lows.
"Arctic sea ice extent for January 2017 averaged 13.38 million square kilometers (5.17 million square miles), the lowest January extent in the 38-year satellite record. This is 260,000 square kilometers (100,000 square miles) below January 2016, the previous lowest January extent, and 1.26 million square kilometers (487,000 square miles) below the January 1981 to 2010 long-term average."
Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis | Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag
"2017 is currently 1571 km3 below the previous record lowest number for January 31st, which occurred in 2013 (the year following record smashing 2012). That's almost 10% lower."
Arctic Sea Ice: PIOMAS
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16-02-2017, 19:51
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Location: Lake Superior, Grand Marais, MN
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Re: Northwest Passage - 2017
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Originally Posted by letoile
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letoile, how do you access TVO.org? It doesn't seem to work on the US side and we're just a few miles from the border.
M. O'Reilly, we're with you. Wilderness and high latitudes make us happy.
Here is another interesting one, . The youngest crew to transit so far, 8 months old!
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