Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways

[Rustic Charm]

Originally Posted by savoir

December is not too late to get out.

December is way too late to get out if the weather is deteriating as it was. It was not an overnight blizzard that trapped them.

[sneuman]

Originally Posted by capngeo

Layman's View:
I live in Florida, USA. It is essentially a long narrow spit of sand and limestone. Just a few weeks ago, I got a load of crushed limestone from a quarry about 25 miles inland. The stone was dug from a level about 50' below grade at an elevation of about 20' above sea level.

There were dozens (if not hundreds) of fossils intermingled with stone; shark's teeth mostly. Logic (not that the GW folks ever apply logic) would dictate that at some time in the past, the water was at least 20' deeper than today. Some time in the past could be quantified by a geologist by the 50' of material over the fossils, however I digress..... The Earth had a lot more oceans back then, which again means (to me) that it was warmer.

My inlaws are Canadian. Much of the rocks in their town bear marks... glacial marks. I've seen the same marks on rocks in the Carolinas.... CRAP, the Earth must have been MUCH colder then.

Layman's Hypothesis: The Earth warms and cools; been doing so for a lot longer than this civilization has been here.... so either this cycle is natural or outside the ability of man to create, OR....... there was another civilization of intelligent beings who farted up the atmosphere with their space ships and caused another damnable warming period.

Layman's Conclusion: Global Warming Caused By Man Is A Hoax

And of course if you can't get this published in a peer-reviewed journal, it means there's a conspiracy to silence opponents of AGW.

[capngeo]

Originally Posted by sneuman

And of course if you can't get this published in a peer-reviewed journal, it means there's a conspiracy to silence opponents of AGW.

I've been published in Playboy... does that count? Playboy has been reviewed by thousands of my peers

[lordgeoff]

Originally Posted by sneuman

And, just today:

Antarctica is rapidly losing its edge | Science/AAAS | News

Of FFS sneuman its is too late in the night for this BS.
Goodnight

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

That summary is one of the best examples in 38 pages as to why 'layman' need to leave the science to 'scientists'.

The German people of the 1930's left fascism to the fascists. That didn't work out too well.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by sneuman

Regarding the Oregon petition:

(Wikipedia)
In 2001, Scientific American took a random sample "of 30 of the 1,400 signatories claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science."

"Of the 26 we were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they still agreed with the petition —- one was an active climate researcher, two others had relevant expertise, and eight signed based on an informal evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition today, three did not remember any such petition, one had died, and five did not answer repeated messages. Crudely extrapolating, the petition supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers – a respectable number, though rather a small fraction of the climatological community."

Sneuman! I'm devastated. You've used obsolete data.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

December is way too late to get out if the weather is deteriating as it was. It was not an overnight blizzard that trapped them.

Horsepucky. That's the middle of the melt. Antarctic sea ice extent in late December is around 9 million square kilometers. It continues to decline to around half of that by late February.

[savoir]

Originally Posted by capngeo

I've been published in Playboy... does that count? Playboy has been reviewed by thousands of my peers

Well that brings a whole new meaning to " peering at Playboy ". There was silly me thinking it meant something else.

[sneuman]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Sneuman! I'm devastated. You've used obsolete data.

Has the petition changed since then? I wasn't aware, sorry!

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by sneuman

Has the petition changed since then? I wasn't aware, sorry!

No fair!! I used the same argument and you shot me down in flames.

[senormechanico]

I'm laughing that this thread even exists.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot does it have to do with sailing?

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by senormechanico

I'm laughing that this thread even exists.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot does it have to do with sailing?

You won't be saying that so smuggly when your favourite anchorage becomes too deep to anchor in.

[sailorchic34]

Myself, I look forward to anchoring in new and exciting places as the seas rise.

[sneuman]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

No fair!! I used the same argument and you shot me down in flames.

But in your case, it was data that was outdated.

[sneuman]

Originally Posted by sailorchic34

Myself, I look forward to anchoring in new and exciting places as the seas rise.

I hope you think you're being funny.