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27-04-2015, 20:34
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
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We'll have to agree to disagree. If you're on a payroll, the money comes from somewhere and with it comes budgets, bean counters, etc. That's commerce, that's business. You can be a non-profit business, but you are still a business.
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A non-profit vs ... big oil. Hmmmm. Still supports my point.
If science is a business (it's not but let's play), its product is the best possible knowledge, and you don't stay in business with a shoddy product.
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27-04-2015, 20:35
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
Page 112. Everybody drink!
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27-04-2015, 20:50
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
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(hey Reefmagnet - Asch in action, right here)
The complaint is that the Aussie government is hiring someone to find results that are favourable to the coal industry, not to do science.
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Broadly, Lomborg claims that by doing a cost-benefit analysis of various policies to attack global issues, you can work out where you get the most “good” for the money you spend.
“What we are doing is economics, not science,” Lomborg told ABC Radio earlier this week, with no hint of irony.
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For the record, I have no problem with cost-benefit analysis. But you need facts to do this.
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27-04-2015, 21:43
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
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(hey Reefmagnet - Asch in action, right here)
The complaint is that the Aussie government is hiring someone to find results that are favourable to the coal industry, not to do science.
For the record, I have no problem with cost-benefit analysis. But you need facts to do this.
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Well that article's cred flew out the window by the time I hit this pearler:
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How do you price, for example, the loss of a Pacific island nation and what that would mean for the cultures that have thrived there? What’s the price losing multiple species of flora and fauna or the Great Barrier Reef Jotzo adds:
Climate change is exceptional because it has all of these dimensions that go beyond the practical capability of cost benefit analysis.
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28-04-2015, 08:24
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
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Record cold weather from Alberta to Siberia is apparently not enough for those guys.
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Nope. Near records highs.
I live in Alberta.
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28-04-2015, 08:30
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
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A non-profit vs ... big oil. Hmmmm. Still supports my point.
If science is a business (it's not but let's play),.
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Ha ha ha....everything is a business or the people working in it don't get paid. What rock are you...oh never...ah....never mind, just figured it out. Land of the Oil Sands lecturing us on CO2....ha ha ah. If it wasn't so ridiculous it would be funny.
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28-04-2015, 08:33
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
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How dare you....
You hater....
You warmist....
You....you....brute and bully...I'm going to report you for Hate Speech....
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28-04-2015, 10:07
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
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Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY
Ha ha ha....everything is a business or the people working in it don't get paid. What rock are you...oh never...ah....never mind, just figured it out. Land of the Oil Sands lecturing us on CO2....ha ha ah. If it wasn't so ridiculous it would be funny.
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Right. NYFD is a business. NASA is a business. NOAA is a business. The Oakland Police Dept is a business. The Marines are a business. Army Corps of Engineers is a business. National Guard... business. USCG... b_s_n_ss. Would you like to buy a vowel?
Got it.
Science isn't a FOR PROFIT business (is that better?) It's a process, a methodology. A means. Would have thought you'd know that, Mr Scientist....
I'm no fan of tarsands. But considering my government has fallen all over themselves to dig up that crap as fast as humanly possible and sell it to you at below world market prices (  ) ... you're welcome.
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28-04-2015, 10:20
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
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Right. NYFD is a business. NASA is a business. NOAA is a business. The Oakland Police Dept is a business. The Marines are a business. Army Corps of Engineers is a business. National Guard... business. USCG... b_s_n_ss. Would you like to buy a vowel?
Got it.
I'm no fan of tarsands. But considering my government has fallen all over themselves to dig up that crap as fast as humanly possible and sell it to you at below world market prices (  ) ... you're welcome.
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Yes...all of the above ARE indeed Businesses....man are all Canadians this Illiterate in how the real world works...sure hope not.
Next.
Obama is saving us from your evil dirty nasty Tar Sands....so sell that **** to China and stop killing the planet with it will ya!
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28-04-2015, 12:05
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
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Yes...all of the above ARE indeed Businesses....man are all Canadians this Illiterate in how the real world works...sure hope not.
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Sure. wtf. EXXON = USCG. BP = NASA. Citibank = NOAA. All businesses, no difference. You win.
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28-04-2015, 12:20
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
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Sure. wtf. EXXON = USCG. BP = NASA. Citibank = NOAA. All businesses, no difference. You win.

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Win?
Who's trying to win anything?
Lake....if you can't understand the differences in business models between the above then how can you be taken seriously when it comes to expressing your MMGW Cultist views?
Come on Amigo...I know you are smarter than that....don't take the easy way out.
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28-04-2015, 13:05
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
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Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY
Win?
Who's trying to win anything?
Lake....if you can't understand the differences in business models between the above then how can you be taken seriously when it comes to expressing your MMGW Cultist views?
Come on Amigo...I know you are smarter than that....don't take the easy way out.
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(nice try tho)
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28-04-2015, 13:15
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Re: Global Warming Opens Up Antarctic Waterways
You responded....Page 120 is almost here....
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