Crew Wanted: Teacher to home school 8 year old

[Timreyn]

Looking for just the right crew member to handle home schooling and helping to look after my 8 year old granddaughter on board. Foggy is a first class Lagoon 570. We will sail Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica, West Coast of Italy and beyond. Purpose of the voyage is to explore and experience the Mediterranean. American crew will consist of myself, Captain 65, one of my sons, 34 and the new member. We hope to start sailing around July 1 and will continue until December. We will continue beyond December but have not decided if we will cross the Atlantic this year or next. This is a non paid position, trade the life experience for the help. If you are qualified to teach and interested pm me. Send your qualifications and info about yourself. Check out the boat on youtube: Sailing Foggy

[JPA Cate]

Timreyn:

You might also consider a nanny.

Ann

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by Timreyn

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This is a non paid position, trade the life experience ...

Not an experience I'd assume.

[JPA Cate]

non-paid position??? Really??? Teachers are very much worth paying. You want someone who is really a good quality, qualified teacher for free?

The laborer is worthy of his hire.

Good luck.

Ann

[Chotu]

Non paid??? Ha ha ha.

Good luck.

[Timreyn]

For the critics that think I am cheap: Well we have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in order to spend six months of the year aboard our boat. I worked endless hours of my life for that privilege. So if someone qualified and in the position to trade a few hours a day in order to live the life I live then I have the position available. Sure teachers are valuable and worth paying, some of the most valuable humans on the planet. But I am offering to trade an experience very few people get to take care of something I am not good at. No one has to accept but I feel like someone will. We will see!

[cofc]

Originally Posted by Timreyn

I worked endless hours of my life for that privilege.

For which you were (presumably) paid. Now you ask someone to work without pay, but for the "experience" of living with retired people on their 57 foot Leopard. Surely you recognize the contradiction?

How many crew members on 300 foot super yachts do you assume are unpaid and are doing it just for the experience? I imagine you'll get what you pay for.

[Timreyn]

Why do you care? If you aren't applying move on.

[GILow]

Mate, as a recently qualified teacher I'd be really worried about someone willing to do it just for the "priveledge" of sitting around on someone else's boat.

I think you are somewhat underestimating the real value of a qualified teacher.

I don't think a real teacher will make the same mistake.

Originally Posted by Timreyn

For the critics that think I am cheap: Well we have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in order to spend six months of the year aboard our boat. I worked endless hours of my life for that privilege. So if someone qualified and in the position to trade a few hours a day in order to live the life I live then I have the position available. Sure teachers are valuable and worth paying, some of the most valuable humans on the planet. But I am offering to trade an experience very few people get to take care of something I am not good at. No one has to accept but I feel like someone will. We will see!

[Chotu]

Originally Posted by Timreyn

Why do you care? If you aren't applying move on.

People care about this because you are trying to take advantage of someone.

You are essentially asking for slave labor.

It’s especially distasteful because you have an expensive boat and are more than capable of paying someone their fair wages.

It leaves a taste of disgust in anyone’s mouth looking at a situation like this.

Try to look at it from the point of view on land. Imagine you want to hire a nanny to take care of your child. Maybe even a teacher like you are trying to do. You have a very nice house. It has a guest cottage. Or maybe it just has a guest room. Would you expect someone on land to come and live there and take care of your child or teach your child just for the experience of living in your house? That’s called slavery. And it’s illegal. You are proposing the exact same thing on the boat.

Crew on boats are paid decent wages. It may not be the highest paying job in the world, but considering there are no other expenses, you can squirrel away quite a bit of money. Essentially, you’re just trying to take on a slave.

The fact that you would treat another human being like this disgusts us. That’s why you see all the negativity. What kind of person even proposes something like this? You must’ve done some awfully evil things to get that Catamaran.

[Tellie]

It was a fair question/request. Everyone arrives here with different experience and information to work with. If I agree to help home school a child for a free ride, room and board, on a boat it's my right to accept or not. No ones forcing anyone into indentured servitude, they can step off at any port and say good bye anytime they choose. I've actually considered this myself when I retire. I've been through the boat ownership thing all my life and the thought of not worrying about parts breaking and breaking out my wallet to fix them is very appealing to me. I actually like the idea of tramping around on cruising sailboats once I have nothing better to do. In fact when I retire in a few more hopefully short years, I'm sure I will be offering to do this right here on CF. I've done well enough that being paid to teach a child on a boat would be a pittance anyway. I've prepared for a lot of travelling when I retire and never expected not to pay my way where ever I go, so a free ride is actually a good thing. I see it more as freedom when I finally get to say "Yep, YOU gotta buy a new one. See ya tomorrow". Of course who wants a crusty old salt like me teaching their 8 year old? Unless they want that Captn Ron experience for their child.

[Timreyn]

Thank you for your opinions! Some of you will see this as "work for no pay" and others will see this as "fantastic paid for European Adventure at no cost to me" So depends on where you are in life and how one looks at it. You might be surprised!

[Timreyn]

Thank you Tellie. You are seeing the perspective that I had in mind!

[Timreyn]

Oh my god. You have to be kidding! No slave labor here. Free ride for a little work. Why do some people of CF poop on others ideas? Old negative people I believe! My offer is a total choice with total freedom to accept or not or continue or not. Sorry you only see the negative. If Elon Musk calls me back and offers me a job running SpaceX's engineering department I am going to tell him his financial offer is generous but I don't want to do that anymore. But if he offers a seat on SpaceX to the moon and back I will gladly work a little for free while we make the trip. You would probably think Elon was screwing me with this offer.

[Joh.Ghurt]

Originally Posted by Timreyn

My offer is a total choice with total freedom to accept or not or continue or not.

Timreyn,

in my experience you get what you pay for, or less. When you offer total choice and freedom, how would you react if the choice was lacklustre work and mostly disinterest? Consider it from your side, where does the continuity and stability in the education come from? If you pay for it, at least you have a little leverage.

This by the way has been a problem with personal tutors through to ages to a point, that the classical literature of the 18th and 19th century is full of the escapades and troubles with them. Also check the biographies of many great artists who made their ends meet with tutoring in various - sometimes totally unrelated - fields

I would reconsider the plan and look for something more stable for your granddaughter. And if your guest on board are only asked whether they're wiling to expose her to new approaches and experiences, the whole thing suddenly becomes a lot less controversial than looking for professional services.