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22-10-2020, 18:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: USVI & FLORIDA
Posts: 108
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FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
Position for 1 experienced crew and 1 amateur on Bali 45 to USVI at next weather window. PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND if you do not meet these qualifications, MUST HAVE/BE: non-smoker, healthy and fit, sailing experience on small vessels, pass background check, able to stand solo night watches, not a douchebag, in South/Central Florida or the VI. NO ROCKSTAR EGOMANIACS. Food and travel covered. Pay DOE, but you'll not get rich, regardless of experience. 7 to 9 day passage. Do not expect a response if you haven't read/meet the conditions above. Send cover letter and CV to brian@captainchambers.com. No response will be given to DMs or comments to this post. If you can't follow these instructions, then you won't make it offshore. Cheers.
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22-10-2020, 18:22
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Charleston, SC
Boat: Pearson 424
Posts: 228
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
So, is there really someone out there that thinks they meet all of your criteria but know they’re a douchebag?
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22-10-2020, 18:27
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#3
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: USVI & FLORIDA
Posts: 108
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
Evidently not you. Thanks for the positive response, and for keeping this forum a place where we can all find employment, experience, and support.
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24-10-2020, 05:58
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#4
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: USVI & FLORIDA
Posts: 108
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
Positions have been filled. Thank you for the many responses!
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24-10-2020, 09:58
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#5
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Highlands NJ
Boat: O'Day 35
Posts: 20
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
Almost guaranteed that the boat owner is a douchebag.
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24-10-2020, 10:05
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Maple Bay, Vancouver Island
Boat: LOA 71'
Posts: 23
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
Not someone I'd like to sail with. Arrogant. Probably why he's solo.
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24-10-2020, 10:51
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#7
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Portland Oregon
Boat: Leopard 45
Posts: 333
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
Filled it that fast huh? Good luck crew! Be afraid, Be very be afraid.
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24-10-2020, 11:19
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#8
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 772
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
I would not wish to sail with him either. And the best of luck to whoever does.
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24-10-2020, 11:33
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#9
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Virgin Islands
Boat: PDQ 36, 36'5", previously Leopard 45 cat and Hunter 33 mono
Posts: 1,344
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
Why is everyone so merciless? It seems to me the OP was trying to save lots of time, not just for him, but for others, so he set the criteria quite clearly. Reasonable criteria, too. He also asked not to clutter up the thread with random answers, but gave a clear email address to use. Then he got a pointless answer, replied to it, and the piling on started. Including personal comments and warnings based on very little. As someone who had helped on deliveries, and also had crew come with me, and who sails professionally, I thought his approach was very fair and business like, and I don't understand why it was so upsetting. Since the trip is to the BVI, has it occurred to anyone that this might be a "commercial" delivery with a firm schedule, rather than a pleasure trip?
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24-10-2020, 11:50
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#10
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Maple Bay, Vancouver Island
Boat: LOA 71'
Posts: 23
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
Quote:
Originally Posted by contrail
Why is everyone so merciless? It seems to me the OP was trying to save lots of time, not just for him, but for others, so he set the criteria quite clearly. Reasonable criteria, too. He also asked not to clutter up the thread with random answers, but gave a clear email address to use. Then he got a pointless answer, replied to it, and the piling on started. Including personal comments and warnings based on very little. As someone who had helped on deliveries, and also had crew come with me, and who sails professionally, I thought his approach was very fair and business like, and I don't understand why it was so upsetting. Since the trip is to the BVI, has it occurred to anyone that this might be a "commercial" delivery with a firm schedule, rather than a pleasure trip?
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You raise a good point re: possible commercial delivery; however, if that was the case full and complete disclosure was definitely lacking. It's not so much that the specific criteria were set out but rather the 'tone' of the posting that I found offensive. I have always found that 'crew' responds much better to respectful dialogue than dictatorial Captain Bligh barking. Just my take (with a lot of blue water under my keel and upt to 12 crew when racing).
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24-10-2020, 12:02
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#11
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: LI Sound
Boat: Sabre 34
Posts: 946
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
I don’t see anything wrong with his OP, he just seems like a straightforward person demanding specific requirements in his crew.
Also, I believe a douchebag knows that he is one
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24-10-2020, 12:16
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 573
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
LOL, why the pile on?
Ha, have you not been on this forum?
I was informed by a moderator as I was being castigated for being accurate about certain members that opinions are welcome, even in the classifieds section. See a product that you dont like for sale, hell yeah, rubbish the product and the price. Good for the newbies Iam told.
So yeah, dont like this guy or his boat, or the owner whom you have never met....of course the know all, be all of all knowledge will spew their opinions.........good for the newbies!!!!
Tooo funny.
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24-10-2020, 12:26
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Charleston, SC
Boat: Pearson 424
Posts: 228
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
I thought the rest of his post was fine it just seemed like an odd “requirement” to list. I would think that through his interview process he would be able to weed out those people he felt were “douchebags” or that he’d have personality conflicts with, no need to put that in the post. He actually addressed my point, I thought that the douchebag comment gave an unnecessarily negative aspect to his post.
Glad to hear he filled the positions, I’m sure it’ll be a fun trip.
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24-10-2020, 12:31
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#14
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2015
Boat: Land bound, previously Morgan 462
Posts: 1,995
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spindrift NH
So, is there really someone out there that thinks they meet all of your criteria but know they’re a douchebag?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BVIbrian
Evidently not you. Thanks for the positive response, and for keeping this forum a place where we can all find employment, experience, and support.
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BVIbrian, I'd guess that a lack of humor in your response to Spindrift is what prompted some of the negative comments that followed. I thought it worth a chuckle, not a sarcastic retort.
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24-10-2020, 16:33
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#15
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 687
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Re: FLL to STT on Bali 45 leaving next window
Seems like BVIbrian has problems with either the use of the English language and/or just common good manners.
It is sometimes observed that some, not all, reasonably rational considered folk suddenly become Captain Bligh's when at sea; authoritative and demanding. Does not look good if one already starts from a position of clumsy authoritarianism.
I think crew admire competence and good interpersonal skills as the basis for a successful pleasant cruise - a race around the buoys or a circumnavigation.
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