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09-07-2020, 09:26
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 9
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Marinas in Tianjin China
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of the Marinas in the artificial Beach area in Tianjin China? I'm finding it difficult to find any contact information online. Do you know if foreign cruisers are welcome when not subject to Covid restrictions? Many thanks for all the great posts on this forum.
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09-07-2020, 09:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Daytona Beach
Boat: Gulfstar, Hirsch, 45'
Posts: 224
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
I spent 1 month there back in 2012 and didn't see anything I would call a marina... sorry
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09-07-2020, 09:34
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 9
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
Thanks very much for your reply, as I understand it the Marinas are supposed to have been completed in the last few years, one of which is said to have 700 berths. They show up on Navionics and are mentioned in Tianjin Port website. Efforts to contact the Port Authority via email have failed unfortunately..
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09-07-2020, 14:19
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Mediterranean
Boat: CT-47
Posts: 199
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
Cruising China is next to impossible for a foreign boat or foreigners in general.
There are marinas all along the coastline, close to big cities like Shanghai, Xiamen and ShenZhen but I have never seen a foreign flagged vessel in any of them.
Sail to Hong Kong and leave the boat there and take a plane to Tianjin
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09-07-2020, 15:09
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 9
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
Hi Gabilo,. Thanks for your response. I will take your advice and find a berth for the boat somewhere and fly in , I'm actually heading into Changping once the Covid restrictions are lifted. Stay safe.
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09-07-2020, 17:36
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Toronto area when not travelling
Boat: Nonsuch 30
Posts: 1,663
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
We visited the marina on Hainan Island by land and had a nice chat with one of the managers who had done similar work in North Carolina. She said that the Chinese government are impossible to deal with. A foreign boat could come to her marina but it would be about US$2500 for all of the permits, a pilot, etc. This did not include marina costs - it was a very nice marina only about 20% full. Most of the boats were powerboats in the 40 to 50' range. She said very few of the owners could control their boats so they never left the marina and were just used for socializing. If your boat was there - foreign or local, all you could do is go out for a day trip and return to the marina. One reason why there are not more boats is Chinese are only allowed to buy new boats. They are not allowed to import a used boat even a million dollar one. Some Chinese will flag their boat in Malaysia and it will be in China for 'the season' only and then leave, with a pro captain, to Malaysia to reset the clock.
She said there were around six marinas in the country and if you wanted to go from her marina to another one it would be the same cost for each. You are not allowed to find an interesting spot to anchor. We really hoped to visit China when we crossed the Pacific because my wife is from Beijing so we probably would have gone to Tianjin if we could.
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10-07-2020, 01:17
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 9
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
Thanks everyone for you responses. Thank you AiniA for your comprehensive assessment of the problems. It seems my friend in Changping was unaware of these issues.
I'm thinking towards perhaps berthing in Incheon or Mokpo S Korea and flying in to Beijing. I was in Mokpo some years ago.
Any advice about this idea would be much appreciated. Take care everyone and be safe.
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10-07-2020, 04:47
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Toronto area when not travelling
Boat: Nonsuch 30
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
Don't know what your timeline is but the Chinese are taking COVID very seriously. Entry requirements are strict - 14 days in a designated hotel at your expense. These also change when they get an outbreak somewhere. Do your homework on this one too.
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10-07-2020, 06:25
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto
Boat: Heritage 35
Posts: 419
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
Question. Why would anyone want to go to China at this point in time?
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10-07-2020, 06:35
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: 1980 Pacific International Marine 41.5
Posts: 710
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
Because China is a lovely country and has delicious food
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalinka1
Question. Why would anyone want to go to China at this point in time?
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10-07-2020, 06:58
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 9
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
Hi everyone.... Thanks for your concern and advice, this is not an immediate plan and of course not while Covid restrictions are in force.
I'm sourcing information for next year or when it's safe. I guess China is not everyone's first choice to visit... but my intention is to combine a new sailing adventure with visiting friends. Researching and planning flexible options is a good start for me at this time. Any and all feedback is very welcome.
Thanks again.
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10-07-2020, 08:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Canada
Boat: Don’t own a boat at this time yet.
Posts: 151
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
A very good friend of mine is a Chinese national living here in Canada. Although not a sailor at all, he was very surprised a foreigner would be able to visit China without an escort. His words: for an individual to visit China, he has to have arranged an authorized/official Chinese tourist organization that will escort the foreigner to visit places (you won’t be allowed to wander on places by yourself) unless you hold temporary residency or with a working visa. In his view, not even shipping crews (foreigners) are allowed. Also, all sorts of port of entry are considered extreme security point. I’d be surprised your could just anchor at will....
So, regardless if all this is really accurate, best to find out with a Chinese consulate before making any plans.
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10-07-2020, 08:41
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto
Boat: Heritage 35
Posts: 419
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
Quote:
Originally Posted by chowdan
Because China is a lovely country and has delicious food
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Fair enough. Stay away from Bats and the authorities: though
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10-07-2020, 10:08
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Toronto
Boat: Small yellow rubber ducky
Posts: 706
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
Be careful.
China may be looking for another Huawei Hostage.
Particularly an American.
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10-07-2020, 11:21
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Retired musician & 50T master
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ct
Boat: Pisces 21
Posts: 692
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Re: Marinas in Tianjin China
I've been to Beijing, Chengdu, and Shanghai many times in 2018 and 2019, both on tourist and on business visa. It's one of the best places I've ever visited. The people are wonderful, the tech is first rate, the food is first rate. the roads, buildings, schools, concert halls, offices, restaurants, shopping, attractions, and sights are first rate - at least in the places I visited. I had local escorts at times, but was always free to travel on my own using the taxis, uber, bullet trains, and plentiful airlines.
While in Shanghai I saw a Nordhavn, probably a 62', in a marina area alongside the river near the financial district. I didn't get close enough to see a hailing port, but at least you know it's possible to bring a vessel in and visit.
Once CVD is over I recommend China for a visit. There's nothing like it, and you'll be amazed to see how they have advanced far ahead of the US and UK.
fair seas
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