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08-08-2012, 09:17
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Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
Im not about to say I told you so, even though no one has wanted to listen or believe, but when the following happens, will the US military encript their satelites and make them unavailable to civilians?
What implicataions does this have for sailors?
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08-08-2012, 09:38
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Re: Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
Get out your sextant, tables, dividers, parallel ruler and charts
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08-08-2012, 09:42
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Re: Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
I genuinely believe this is something which we need to be aware of particularly as many sailors rely to some degree on satelite comms.
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08-08-2012, 09:54
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Re: Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
Are they going to turn off the chemtrails first?
Oh well, I'll use Glonass on my iPhone4S.
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08-08-2012, 09:55
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Re: Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
The military sats ARE encrypted. We are only using the civilian offshot of the whole GPS.
Sure thing US govt can switch off the whole thing and, since they built it, I think it is up to them if and when they elect to do so.
BTW we will all be killed by cluster bombs by then, and we cannot navigate when we are dead. Mare sure your AP works and buy a windvane or two. Contrary to some biased sources, DO NOT buy stock food - you will not need food when you are dead.
c. (a.k.a 'b')
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08-08-2012, 10:04
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Re: Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
Anjou,
You list your boat as canal and river cruiser, would think that charts and the ordinance survey maps would be all you would need or am I missing something?
My wife and I have spent many enjoyable weeks on the British canals, mostly in Wales, Staffordshire, Worcestershire and Shropshire. A bit south of where you are
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08-08-2012, 10:04
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Re: Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Nothing wrong with dead reckoning in an emergency. sailed from the PNW to Mexico and back with it, as the old Sat Nav never worked. As far as the military is concerned, it's about time they took over and put the local/out-of-control Teamster/Cops in their place.
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08-08-2012, 10:08
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Re: Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
Finally the powers of Evil led by Speaker Boehner, the AntiChrist, and the Beast (Hiliary Clinton) and their armies, which are funded by China and the EU will battle Good with the second coming of Jesus, Michelle Obama's unborn son, with armies mostly composed of rednecks and children.
Don't forget the four horsemen, Harry Ried, Oprah Winfrey, Peter Smith and Warren Buffet.
Stock up now!!
P.S. It is all Hussien Obama's fault.
(there, is that enough to close this thread?)
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08-08-2012, 10:17
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Re: Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
Quote:
Originally Posted by anjou
I genuinely believe this is something which we need to be aware of particularly as many sailors rely to some degree on satelite comms.
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08-08-2012, 10:18
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Re: Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
The danger seems far-fetched to me, especially considering the total mayhem that would be created by any disruption of GPS services -- there are now even bulldozers which automatically create roadbeds using sub-millimeter accurate GPS devices.
But it certainly wouldn't hurt anything having one of the newer GPS receivers which receive the Russian GLONASS signals as well as the U.S. GPS.
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08-08-2012, 10:20
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Re: Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoPowers
Finally the powers of Evil led by Speaker Boehner, the AntiChrist, and the Beast (Hiliary Clinton) and their armies, which are funded by China and the EU will battle Good with the second coming of Jesus, Michelle Obama's unborn son, with armies mostly composed of rednecks and children.
Don't forget the four horsemen, Harry Ried, Oprah Winfrey, Peter Smith and Warren Buffet.
Stock up now!!
P.S. It is all Hussien Obama's fault.
(there, is that enough to close this thread?)
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08-08-2012, 10:30
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Re: Will GPS crash when military sats are encrypted
Well!!--Having lived and survived inside the Bermuda Triangle for most of my 67 yrs, I don't think I'll let this bother me too much.
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