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Old 27-12-2021, 17:33   #76
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

We are sailing/motoring north from Anacortes to Princess Louisa Inlet (for New Years eve). We've done a lot of winter sailing (and are set up with full enclosure and heat in a center cockpit Moody 46). Watch the weather, and particularly watch little lows that blow across Vancouver Island and create nasty squalls in the Straight.

MAKE SURE YOU ARE VACCINATED AND ARE PCR COVID TESTED. And watch for changing rules. Our first attempt ran afoul of changing rules and we did an overnight passage from Vancouver to Anacortes. We are in Gibsons tonight, Pender Harbour tomorrow....



I love winter sailing in the Salish Sea. And PredictWind is your friend.


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Old 27-12-2021, 17:52   #77
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So where's the boat--right now? If you are in Seattle, jump across the sound to Eagle Harbor on Bainbridge and spend the night on the hook. Then come back.


You can't get timely covid tests in Anacortes or Port Townsend. The only "in the moment" test in Bellingham is ArcPoint Labs on Meridian. CBSA means business on the 72 hours. That's 72.0000 hours, not 72.0001 hours. Everett Clinic in Marysville is pretty good, but you don't want to be turned away at the border (don't ask how I know!)


Also, AIS and VTS (11 in southern, 12 around Vancouver) is your dearest friend. Don't leave without it. If you don't have AIS in place, call Doug at Milltech Marine and have him set you up.


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Old 27-12-2021, 18:24   #78
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I didn't read the whole thread, but as a winter sailor here in Vancouver and a weather nut, watch for the outflow winds from Bellingham northwards. What people say about the wind prediction apps is correct. They are useless in the Salish Sea. Too many topographical effects which the computer models cannot handle. Winds can come from any direction in a short distance and or time. Once past the higher land off the Fraser lowlands, you will mostly get gusty NE winds. Watch the weather buys/land station data (especially Sand Heads) and be very careful off the mouth of the Fraser. With outflow (NE) winds the conditions will actually be quite favourable but give the mouth a wide birth.
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Old 27-12-2021, 19:22   #79
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Update: currently in shilshoal marina in seattle. Have been so busy getting boat ready and learning systems, havent chimed back in but have been reading when i can. Waited out the worst of weather and 7” of snow in gig harbor on boxing day. Was -8° this morning but skies cleared and we headed out. The lines were iced up and could barley get the dock lines off. Trying to get a sail out would be impossible.

Motored up and was very beautiful but cold AF.

Heading to oak harbor tomorrow (28th)

Thanks for the advice on where to get covid tests. Going to get on the phone tomorrow. My wife could only book one spot at oak harbor walgreens and no other appts available. Will try bellingham. Point roberts does tests at the firehall Wednesday and Sunday with a 2 day turnaround if we cant get one in bellingham.

Our diesel heater has been working well and space heaters going on shore power. Coldest night temp has been -12°c
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Old 27-12-2021, 22:07   #80
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Well, came back to the boat fro dinner and Webasco diesel heater has stopped and cant get it to restart we do have space heaters while at shore power but this is going to suck. Any advice?
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Old 27-12-2021, 22:15   #81
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

What model Webasto? I might be able to give you a hand (or at least a lift) when you're in Bellingham.
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Old 27-12-2021, 22:19   #82
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Its an airtop evo 3900 or 5500 according to manual. Didnt see a model number crawling to check it in back.

That would be amazing if you could.
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Old 27-12-2021, 22:28   #83
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Service manual with troubleshooting guide can be found here: https://www.butlertechnik.com/downlo...hop_manual.pdf

See section 5.4
does it display or flash a fault code?
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Old 28-12-2021, 06:43   #84
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Light on heater control goes on like normal, no flashing. Unfortunately my main panel at nav station display is desd. There was a alarm beep after we docked and around time I think I turned off heater.

Trying to figure out which fuse it is, as manual says that can reset fault.
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Old 28-12-2021, 07:49   #85
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

Shure Marine in Ballard is a dealer if you need to call a friend.
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What people say about the wind prediction apps is correct. They are useless in the Salish Sea. Too many topographical effects which the computer models cannot handle. Winds can come from any direction in a short distance and or time.
Agree with above, except for this:

Vizaweb, by Environment Canada, HRDPS (2.5km/resolution) DOES take into account topographic etc features. Best computer models for BC waters.

https://weather.gc.ca/vizaweb/index_e.html

User Name: vizaweb
Password: Bewaziv16!

As it is a full-feature and initially complicated system, new users should review instructions for new users. Play with it, it is quite amazing (though NOT always correct...).

Briefly,
select HRDPS, LAM_LOWER_MAINLAND (or other Domain/area), WIND (or other in Category1), Sfc_Wind (or other under Images 1), then All (under Fcst). For example:

Wind forecast for Wednesday December 29, 2021 at 7am PST (times on Vizaweb are in UTC):
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Old 28-12-2021, 11:56   #87
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Make sure to watch fuel consumption. Your diesel heater could be burning about 2 gallons of fuel a day as it's likely constantly running in the current temps.
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

You may want to consider that BC Ferries is cancelling sailings today because of the freezing conditions.
https://www.cheknews.ca/bc-ferries-c...itions-930929/
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Shure Marine in Ballard is a dealer if you need to call a friend.
They are already in Oak Harbor, Wa.
You should fuel up in La Conner, then in Anacortez, you can seek help locally at the boatyard there.

The fuel dock in Anacortez is small, not really user friendly, and you still need to dock or Anchor to get into town, maybe the guest dock if you want, got power.
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Light on heater control goes on like normal, no flashing. Unfortunately my main panel at nav station display is desd. There was a alarm beep after we docked and around time I think I turned off heater.

Trying to figure out which fuse it is, as manual says that can reset fault.
Now if you had installed a Red Dot or Heatex Heater core you'd be in warm company under way.
Next purchase!

We love ours when motoring in wet and Cold.
Get the dual fan, Heatex worth the cost.
SS covering, two switches, super easy install.

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