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Old 21-12-2021, 08:17   #16
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

Sail around a little in a brisk wind and a sea running with your diesel heater on to be sure its happy when you are underway.
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

I've spent some time sailing in sub-zero weather. As with all winter activities, having appropriate gear, and staying dry, are the keys to success. If you get wet, get out of those clothes as quick as possible. Have backup warm clothes.

Make sure you can stay out of the elements as much as possible (good AP/vane, and good cockpit protection. Have a heat source on board that you can run while under way. And don't forget to eat well. Eat warm things if conditions allow. There's nothing finer than hot stew on a cold day.
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Condensation can be a problem. If you sleep in the v-berth your breath will condense on the ceiling and rain on your bedding. Bring extra clothing, and bedding to be dry.
We find running a de-humidifier particularly when moving onto the boat if its cold. The first 24 hours can cause a lot of condensation making everything feel damp. Running the de-humidifier stops this, helps warm the boat and makes everything feel dry.

You don't need anything special if you are stopping in marinas each night. Also there are two types, a compressor type that runs like a fridge and a dessicant type which take slightly more power but work at lower temperatures. We have the latter, wouldn't be without for winter sailing.

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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

As has been said, it's mostly a matter of proper clothing and staying dry. Having a dodger helps and keep the hot drinks coming. If there are two of you periodically trade duties, one can pilot the boat while while the other warms up in the cabin. Trade off before the pilot gets too cold.

Make sure you have a good insulated pad to sit on. The cockpit fiberglass would be chilly and conduct heat from your @#$!!. You might take some hot water bottles to keep in

If you don't have heat onboard, a portable propane heater could be helpful for warming up. Just make sure you secure it so it doesn't cause a problem when the water gets choppy or you when you encounter boat wakes.

And, like said above, plan on motoring or motor sailing. That warm motor does indeed make a difference.

Make sure your boat is in good shape first. I'd want to spend a few days making sure I was comfortable with the boat's condition before taking off.
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

thanks guys, lots of good tips. stocked up at MEC, canada's REI, today. Will stop at West marine and the fishery on way down to the boat. Will get the oil changed and spend at least a day close to the marina making sure everything is good to go.
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thanks guys, lots of good tips. stocked up at MEC, canada's REI, today. Will stop at West marine and the fishery on way down to the boat. Will get the oil changed and spend at least a day close to the marina making sure everything is good to go.
Fuel and systems is what I’d worry about.
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Fuel and systems is what I’d worry about.

ok, now I am worried

any tips on fuel and systems?


Also thanks for your earlier post. lots of good points in that one.

We had a full survey a couple weeks ago including haul out and sea trial and everything checked out good including separate engine mechanical inspection and lab tests. Last oil change was 18 months ago but only had 4 hours on it since.

Was going to put some diesel treatment in before topping up the tank.
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

Plan on motoring the whole trip.
Avoid getting on deck(spray,etc)
Tarp the cockpit.
Possibly buy a Buddy propane heater",20lb tank & adapter + hose -for cockpit.
There are 2 of you-Make a direct,non stop trip.(Covid,tests,hassle,time)
Have a wooden bat & a few jugs of pink RV antifreeze in case of icing.
Purchase a couple of Mustang style Floater/Work suits(not gumby survival)-very warm.
Use fisherman's waterproof insulated work mits-not gloves-or w/proof snowmobile mits.
You need insulated warm boots-snowmobile or comm. fishing.
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

It’s been mentioned before but I will reiterate
Invest in some Really Really good boots.
If your feet get cold your done in.
I use Dubarry’s but there are others.
I also have a pair of Scuba diving neoprene gloves which
work fairly well.
Work out how you’re going to interface with your
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

i was sarcastically being funny when i was complaining about how cold it was today in the 50s in So Cal with 12 knott winds.
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

You may want to keep a close watch on "Travel Advisories" from both USA & Can. & use the Cdn app mentioned in this link.
https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid


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Sounds great @hugosalt, its a little bit tough in the winter!
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

I used to turn on the gas fire and sit in the companionway and let the autopilot do the work.
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ok, now I am worried

any tips on fuel and systems?


Also thanks for your earlier post. lots of good points in that one.

We had a full survey a couple weeks ago including haul out and sea trial and everything checked out good including separate engine mechanical inspection and lab tests. Last oil change was 18 months ago but only had 4 hours on it since.

Was going to put some diesel treatment in before topping up the tank.
If you have the time and if the tank is equipped take a look in the fuel tank and see if there is any sediment, water, nastiness in the tank and more specifically around the pickup. If anything, get it out as best you can (mainly the big stuff) or completely empty the tank if possible and give it a good cleaning. Carry spare filters (engine and primary if equipped min 2-3 each) top up with as much fresh fuel as you can and go for it. I've done this same trip in January, just watch the weather and your tides and you'll be fine, stay warm.
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Re: Who Winter Sails Subzero?

Good advice here on winter sailing in general.

I think given the Omicron situation, your plan to get the boat moving North as soon as possible is pretty astute.

If weather looks dicey, consider motoring up the East side of Whidbey Island and up through the Swinomish Channel to Anacortes - will be much more protected on that side.

Honestly I think your biggest concern this time of year will be "deadheads". Lots of logs and things floating around from all the rain. But with a dodger you can comfortably keep an eye on things. Should be fine as long as you're dressed for the occasion.

Still plenty of commercial traffic around (and you may be surprised at how many other pleasure craft you see) should you get into any trouble.
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