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Old 01-12-2021, 22:08   #1
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Where To Overhaul And Then Some?

Hello to all.

Now forgive me if for some reason this should be in some other area but I sure don't know where, it's complicated.

I (US Citizen) live in the PNW, am purchasing a Steel Roberts 53' that is laying on the east coast of England. I would appreciate suggestions on where would be a good place for a complete overhaul.

Either in the UK, Scandanavia, or North Africa/Tunisia. Somewhere that can reasonably offer quality service and build with lasting materials. Not royal standard joinery or pristine mirror finish brightwork but good, sturdy, made to last kind of work with a fit and finish that shows pride of craftsmanship.
Not a total re-fit but pretty much every system needs something done or attended to as it has been sitting for quite some time. Some carpentry and plumbing additions, full paint job, etc. A yard that has lodging nearby but doesn't REQUIRE constant oversight.

I have considered Berthon but the cost is cause for concern. The one-stop shop nature and build quality are ideal but...
Tunisia sounds like a good option but I do not know what to expect aside from their upholstery. The price is unbeatable but how is the quality? Do they do carpentry and metalwork well? I admire the joinery of Scandanavia and the metalwork is exceptional...

I understand that it all depends on the yard. That is a constant. Where can I find a yard that may not excel in one thing but sure does dang well on all things? I would also appreciate an area that I could explore while the work is being done. An area with history and good food. Those are subjective of course and opinions vary.

All of the above and with a vessel that will be US-flagged/insured, or at least in the process of with NVDC time.

Thanks for looking!
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Old 01-12-2021, 22:40   #2
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Re: Where To Overhaul And Then Some?

You can only have 90 days in Europe, you can have 6 months in the UK. Mads and Eva from Sail Life have chosen Gosport for this reason. Locals friendly and we speak American.

The alternative would be one of the Isle of Wight yards, the Kingston yard which I think is council owned could be cheap.

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Consider keeping the yacht flagged and registered in the UK whilst you are here and insure it in the UK too. Will be cheaper, then change when you depart if you want.

No shortage of history with the Victory just across the harbour, London an hour away and Cowes on your doorstep.

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Old 01-12-2021, 23:29   #3
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Re: Where To Overhaul And Then Some?

What about Turkey? A Canadian friend did a major multi-month refit of a Moody 44 in Turkey several years ago and he was extremely happy with the very low costs and very high quality of work. I have no idea about the current situation but it might be worth checking.
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Old 02-12-2021, 00:08   #4
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"Consider keeping the yacht flagged and registered in the UK whilst you are here and insure it in the UK too. Will be cheaper, then change when you depart if you want."

Thank you for the recommendations! That (above) is a great option, but I wonder most about the cost/value. Due to my ignorance and nothing else. Any recommendations near Hull?
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I suspect from acquaintances experiences and having visited (not on my own boat) there a few times, that Berthon may just be for the well heeled. Great place though. Lots of boating stuff and history. Berthon is short on space and this may contribute to costs. Best ablutions facilities I've ever seen though.
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Re: Where To Overhaul And Then Some?

For many years Berthon built lifeboats for the Royal National Lifeboat Institute, and other countries, here in Lymington; they still do repairs and maintenance though the Shannon Class is now built in Poole by the new (now 6 years old) RNLI's own factory.
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Re: Where To Overhaul And Then Some?

After the utter stupidity of Brexit I would not register in the UK because the chances of continued reciprocity with the rest of the EU are highly doubtful.

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Thank you for the recommendations! That (above) is a great option, but I wonder most about the cost/value. Due to my ignorance and nothing else. Any recommendations near Hull?
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Perhaps have a phone call to the RYA- this is general background

https://www.rya.org.uk/knowledge/abr...it-formalities
but they may help with your re-registration query
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Take the time you think it will take to do the work and multiply it by seven. Speaking from experience.
Sonic test and find a good welder.
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I suspect from acquaintances experiences and having visited (not on my own boat) there a few times, that Berthon may just be for the well heeled. Great place though. Lots of boating stuff and history. Berthon is short on space and this may contribute to costs. Best ablutions facilities I've ever seen though.
That may be reason enough alone!
Is there a place like that for the moderately heeled?
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Old 10-12-2021, 18:08   #11
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Hello Pete:

I would appreciate a chat regarding your suggestions! Please feel free to PM me if you don't mind answering a few more questions.
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A yard that has lodging nearby but doesn't REQUIRE constant oversight.
I really can't help with recommendations, but does such a thing as this really exist? All yards require constant oversight, as far as I have been able to determine. But I am ever hopeful that one day I will come across such a place, it would be like finding Xanadu. If you find one, please let me know.
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