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10-06-2015, 18:54
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bahamas/Florida
Boat: Solaris Sunstar 36' catamaran
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
I was once anchored on the Bahama banks about 10 miles from where NW Channel light is supposed to be lol. I thought I was far enough away from the normal traffic pattern to be out of everyone's way. Conditions were benign, partial moon was up, and I had my anchor light on.
About 0300 I was awakened by the sound of a diesel nearby. I went up on deck and saw an interisland freighter passing by too close for comfort. I was wondering if the watch stander was asleep when I saw that there were several people in the wheelhouse. The reason for the lack of attention became apparent when I saw one of the crew raise his hand in the air and bring it down quickly in a gesture familiar to anybody who has spent time in the islands.
They were playing dominos.
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10-06-2015, 19:31
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#332
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Eternal Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 848
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
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Originally Posted by nimblemotors
What I've said, sailing solo is taking more risk than those with crew.
Voluntarily taking more risk == Less seamanship.
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Well, there is certainly no shortage of baffling comments that have been posted to this thread :-)
So, then... Sailing to Bermuda by definition entails "less seamanship" than motoring down the ICW?
Or, a circumnavigation by someone like Jeanne Socrates via the Great Capes == less seamanship than a Milk Run circumnavigation as part of an Oyster Rally?
Seriously?
By such a measure, I suppose the ultimate in seamanship is demonstrated by those who never leave the dock...
:-)
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10-06-2015, 19:42
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#333
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,956
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
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Originally Posted by Jon Eisberg
Well, there is certainly no shortage of baffling comments that have been posted to this thread :-)
So, then... Sailing to Bermuda by definition entails "less seamanship" than motoring down the ICW?
Or, a circumnavigation by someone like Jeanne Socrates via the Great Capes == less seamanship than a Milk Run circumnavigation as part of an Oyster Rally?
Seriously?
By such a measure, I suppose the ultimate in seamanship is demonstrated by those who never leave the dock...
:-)
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We (Tasmania ) have the largest number per population in the Australian Continent of those type of seaman.  They have absolutely fantastic stats for never having run aground, or into another vessel. And they never get into bad weather and need to call for help. They are amazing mariners.
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10-06-2015, 19:51
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#334
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Moderator

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Boat: Islander 34
Posts: 5,480
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
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Originally Posted by RTB
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LOL, I've just downloaded it. should be fun.
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10-06-2015, 19:53
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#335
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Sacramento, California
Boat: Solar 40ft Cat :)
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
Seriously? not going to sea is compared to going to sea alone vs having crew?
You really gotta stretch to find a way to disagree.
And btw, I have no problem with solo sailors.
What I have a problem with is when they claim/brag they are such better sailors they don't need crew.
Mostly it is your own personal safety, so go right ahead!
I certainly did.
Now here is a guy committed to singlehanding...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Eisberg
Well, there is certainly no shortage of baffling comments that have been posted to this thread :-)
So, then... Sailing to Bermuda by definition entails "less seamanship" than motoring down the ICW?
Or, a circumnavigation by someone like Jeanne Socrates via the Great Capes == less seamanship than a Milk Run circumnavigation as part of an Oyster Rally?
Seriously?
By such a measure, I suppose the ultimate in seamanship is demonstrated by those who never leave the dock...
:-)
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10-06-2015, 20:07
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#336
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Home port Kemah, TX Currently in Brunswick Georgia
Boat: Hunter 36
Posts: 1,524
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Eisberg
Or, a circumnavigation by someone like Jeanne Socrates via the Great Capes == less seamanship than a Milk Run circumnavigation as part of an Oyster Rally?
Seriously?
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Umm, she had her problems, right Jon?
Sad finale to the circumnavigation of Jeanne Socrates.
Catching up on my internet surfing I was so sad to read that Jeanne Socrates has run her boat aground just 100 miles short of completing her solo-circumnavigation.Her auto-pilot failed as she was taking a short nap. What an absolutely awful experience for such a capable and motivated lady, our thoughts are with her as she tries to salvage her beloved boat Nereida off the Pacific Mexican coast
clinging to the wreckage: Sad finale to the circumnavigation of Jeanne Socrates.
I'm not in the negative single-handing group, but have no problem keeping you guys honest...
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10-06-2015, 20:15
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#337
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Moderator

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Boat: Islander 34
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
Quote:
Originally Posted by RTB
Umm, she had her problems, right Jon?
Sad finale to the circumnavigation of Jeanne Socrates.
Catching up on my internet surfing I was so sad to read that Jeanne Socrates has run her boat aground just 100 miles short of completing her solo-circumnavigation. I'm not in the negative single-handing group, but have no problem keeping you guys honest... 
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That was her previous RTW. Shes since gone RTW again, finished last year, without too much fuss, single handed. She's currently down Mexico way. At 72-73 she's a better sailor then someone half her age.
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10-06-2015, 20:17
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#338
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Home port Kemah, TX Currently in Brunswick Georgia
Boat: Hunter 36
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
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Originally Posted by sailorchic34
LOL, I've just downloaded it. should be fun.
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It's actually quite good. I read it the third time while on a mooring in Hope Town, Bahamas. I also did the lighthouse there. Freaked me out. You'll understand when you read it.
Read Outbreak too. The second book. Not quite as good, but couldn't resist. The third book is on the way. Should be great, reading what is available. Check out his website. Great stuff - https://cmdrysdale.wordpress.com/
Enjoy,
Ralph
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10-06-2015, 20:29
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#339
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Home port Kemah, TX Currently in Brunswick Georgia
Boat: Hunter 36
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorchic34
That was her previous RTW. Shes since gone RTW again, finished last year, without too much fuss, single handed. She's currently down Mexico way. At 72-73 she's a better sailor then someone half her age.
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Agreed. She's awesome. Just saying that sleeping has bit her on the butt before, just like with Jessica (whom I also have the greatest respect for).
Ralph
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10-06-2015, 20:38
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#340
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 848
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
Quote:
Originally Posted by RTB
Umm, she had her problems, right Jon?
Sad finale to the circumnavigation of Jeanne Socrates.
Catching up on my internet surfing I was so sad to read that Jeanne Socrates has run her boat aground just 100 miles short of completing her solo-circumnavigation.Her auto-pilot failed as she was taking a short nap. What an absolutely awful experience for such a capable and motivated lady, our thoughts are with her as she tries to salvage her beloved boat Nereida off the Pacific Mexican coast
clinging to the wreckage: Sad finale to the circumnavigation of Jeanne Socrates.
I'm not in the negative single-handing group, but have no problem keeping you guys honest... 
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No problem at all... I'm guessing like many great voyagers, she became a better sailor and ultimately profited from such a mishap...
Actually, I've previously cited her incident in Mexico as a classic example of the risk of a singlehander sleeping inshore, and particularly while running under power...
;-)
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post1815789
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10-06-2015, 20:45
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#341
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Round Bay, Severn River
Boat: Formerly Pearson 28-1, now just a sailing dinghy
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
With all the talk about NUC lights in this thread, I wondered what the take was on displaying non traditional lights while sailing at night?
In Boston harbor, the coast guard once asked me to light my mainsail up to make me visible to other traffic.
On a couple overnight passages with poor visibility, I've hung an led lantern in my rigging to again light up the main. This could be mistaken for a steaming light, I suppose, but it seemed to make sense at the time. Especially as in one account of a collision I read, the single hander seemed to have been faulted for not being as lit up as possible (not an entirely accurate interpretation probably, the actual ruling was that the judge did not believe the sailor's running lights were either on/visible).
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10-06-2015, 21:01
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#342
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Join Date: May 2012
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
I have single handed with as many 5 on board!!!!
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10-06-2015, 21:01
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#343
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
I see nothing wrong with a spreader light to increase your visibility. I think it's a good idea under certain circumstances.
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10-06-2015, 23:33
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#344
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia.
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
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Originally Posted by FamilyVan
I see nothing wrong with a spreader light to increase your visibility. I think it's a good idea under certain circumstances.
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Having lights on other than Navigation does nothing but cause confusion, and IMHO is selfishly thumbing your nose at others. Navigation lights are there to inform others where your vessel is going.
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11-06-2015, 00:53
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#345
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
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Re: What Is The Big Deal About Single Handling?
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Originally Posted by SimonV
Having lights on other than Navigation does nothing but cause confusion, and IMHO is selfishly thumbing your nose at others. Navigation lights are there to inform others where your vessel is going.
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Tell that to every damn fishing boat on the water. I have frequently been unable to discern the nav lights of trawlers both inshore in Oz and well offshore in lots of places. They are lit up like a Hollywood premire, totally drowning out the sidelights. The gangs of shrimpers off northern NSW and Qld can be pretty intimidating!
But lighting up your sails shouldn't interfere with seeing your nav lights, either deck or tricolour, and just might help show that y ou are a sailboat... as if many of those whom you encounter near shore give a damn about that!
It's a jungle out there!
Jim
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