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11-08-2016, 06:52
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Mason, NH
Boat: 1984 Hunter 27
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What do you make of this
I considering buying a 1976 Catalina 27. On the first pass looking at the boat I noticed this. I understand that Catalina had a problem with some of the spreaders on the early boats an offer a redesigned spreader base. I'm assuming this is a fix to the spreader problem. The current owner has only owned the boat for 3 yrs and assumed it was stock & never had any issues with it. BTW they upgraded to a newer and larger boat. How much would this sort of repair affect the price. The patch wraps both sides of the mast. mast spreader close up.jpg
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11-08-2016, 07:33
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
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Re: What do you make of this
there is a forsale catalina 27 here that had a break in mast in similar area and was sleeved. now it is excellent--sails as it used to sail and all is well---just stronger.
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11-08-2016, 08:18
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Re: What do you make of this
Call Catalina and they will tell you if it is a stock fix. Grant.
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11-08-2016, 10:32
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Marina del Rey, California
Boat: President 43 Sportfish
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Re: What do you make of this
Knock the cost of a new mast off the selling price.
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11-08-2016, 16:48
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New Orleans
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Re: What do you make of this
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Originally Posted by Terra Nova
Knock the cost of a new mast off the selling price.
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You are probably right, but be forwarned a new mast is probably worth more than the boat is used.
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11-08-2016, 16:55
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Location: Skagit City, WA
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Re: What do you make of this
It's likely a good thing actually. Were talking a $3-5k boat here right? I've turned down a free Cat 27 with diesel after not taking it at $3k. Frankly I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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11-08-2016, 19:33
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Marina del Rey, California
Boat: President 43 Sportfish
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Re: What do you make of this
I wouldn't own a boat with a Kluge like that sticking up in the air.
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1st rule of yachting: When a collision is unavoidable, aim for something cheap.
"whatever spare parts you bring, you'll never need"--goboatingnow
"Id rather drown than have computers take over my life."--d design
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12-08-2016, 09:35
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Holland, Michigan
Boat: Catalina 30
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Re: What do you make of this
I think I would want to take a careful look at it, and also look at the deck for any evidence of damage to the chainplates. Examine the mast footing carefully too, for any evidence that things came a tumbling down at some point in the past. Also, note how it is fastened. Did they use stainless sheet metal screws? Is there any corrosion? You can examine it up close with a video camera hoisted up on a halyard, or be daring and use the bosun's chair.
As to cosmetics, wow, that could be fun. Paint it a different color like white or red or black and it becomes a feature, not a blemish!
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12-08-2016, 10:02
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Re: What do you make of this
That sleeve actually is probably way stronger than just having the spreaders attached with a small pipe fitting like they use to do, and a lot of other boats do. See nothing wrong with that, and in fact it should add to the value of the boat. It also distributes the loading over a wider area of the mast. Go for it.
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12-08-2016, 10:13
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
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Re: What do you make of this
I'm with Reed, once I inspected how the repair was done, if done correctly it's a good thing, bodged up, not so much
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12-08-2016, 10:22
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Channel Islands, CA
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Re: What do you make of this
It'd be nice to see it up close but I'd guess this was done in response to weakness and/or corrosion around old spreaders and not a repair of a break.
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12-08-2016, 10:47
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Sequim, WA
Boat: Pacific Seacraft Dana 24
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Re: What do you make of this
Looks OK except the spreaders appear straight out rather than perpendicular to the shrouds.
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12-08-2016, 11:04
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nova Scotia until Spring 2021
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Re: What do you make of this
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Originally Posted by Don C L
It'd be nice to see it up close but I'd guess this was done in response to weakness and/or corrosion around old spreaders and not a repair of a break.
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Yeah, might go either way. I'd be very interested to confirm issues like dissimilar metal fasteners (rivets and bolts) and, if so, Tefgel, Duralac or nylon bushing separation of same.
DONE RIGHT, there's nothing wrong with a sleeved mast, save that it puts a few more pounds aloft, but it's not a deal-breaker in a cheap-ass boat, and in fact (see "done right"), it's stronger than factory being in essence a reinforcement of the column.
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12-08-2016, 11:04
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: PA, sail Chesapeake
Boat: Lots of boats.
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Re: What do you make of this
My 76' Cat 27 does not have the wrap-around. Looking at your picture, it looks like the repair has been there a long while. If the price is right, buy the boat and sail it. I'm sure you don't plan any trans-Atlantic crossings.
The C-27 is a nice boat. Forgiving and easy to sail, standing head room, nice layout, LOTS of available parts, both new and used. They made over 6600 of these things. Need a mast, look on eBay or inquire at the boat yards. People part these out every day. You can get almost new sails for cheap. Hook into the catalina27.org website for more specific questions.
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12-08-2016, 11:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Marina del Rey, California
Boat: President 43 Sportfish
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Re: What do you make of this
Quote:
Originally Posted by reed1v
...in fact it should add to the value of the boat...
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Nonsense.
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1st rule of yachting: When a collision is unavoidable, aim for something cheap.
"whatever spare parts you bring, you'll never need"--goboatingnow
"Id rather drown than have computers take over my life."--d design
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