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Old 18-09-2020, 21:36   #46
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Re: We were attacked by Orcas!!!

Would dropping a gallon of bleach dissuade this whale?

Seems like they, for whatever reason, learned a bad behavior, perhaps if they learned this won’t be tolerated it will fix the issue, like shooting bang shells at a bear. It is in these whales best interest to have a fear of man.
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Old 20-09-2020, 20:08   #47
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Re: We were attacked by Orcas!!!

Hi FastTrout. Please read t(e article about the Orcas and the fishermen. Not the first short article, the longer one in the Gardian...see the other Orca thread.
You just can’t dump bleach in the sea to “unlearn” bad Orcas.
It is a clear violation of two Federal laws. First, dumping a chemical.
That’s probably going to get you a fine. Violations of the Marine Mammals Act...
this will really get you in trouble with the Feds.
The USCG and the US Fish and Wildlife Service, both have specific enforcement
officers for this type of violation. Federal judges will slam dunk you. You have published in a public forum your intent to violate the law...
Believe me they will dig everything up in discovery. The environmental groups can sue in civil court after the Feds fine you. Just stop your boat. Orcas are just mammals. Do something aggressive and they react. Please read my other posts on this subject in the other Orca thread.
Manatees build boats. Orcas eat boats.
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Old 20-09-2020, 20:54   #48
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Re: We were attacked by Orcas!!!

Is it just more reporting or actually more negative contacts? Troubling behavior if it starts escalating...
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Old 20-09-2020, 21:48   #49
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Re: We were attacked by Orcas!!!

"Orca" pretty good movie about a killer whale stalking Richard Harris

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orca_(film)
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I remember the story from the book The Brendan Voyage about an orca attack on their boat (leather-skinned Irish curragh) and they had a Faroe islander aboard who said something to the effect that orcas have the reputation of being crafty bastards and were despised by sailors from his country.
The Faroe Islanders being notorious for slaughtering whales could not have anything to do with that, could it?

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Re: We were attacked by Orcas!!!

Here is another video of orcas attacking a vessel.
It's in German language, but you don't need to understand the words to grasp what's going on.

https://youtu.be/KUOUHfw3C9M Just skip ahead to minute 8:36
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Re: We were attacked by Orcas!!!

Seems odd that an intelligent wild animal would attack for sport.

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Fox hunting, grouse shoots, big game hunts. Ah yep I see your point, intelligent animals don't hunt for fun, guess homosapien has a lot of evolving to do to be classified as intelligent



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Really confused by your experience. Could you address a few questions?
  • What color was the bottom painted?
  • Don’t know about you, but I have had dolphins warn me to change course. Could that have been the case? Were the orcas feeding or were there young present?
  • Was the tow in the same direction as your original heading, or back over your old track?

Seems odd that an intelligent wild animal would attack for sport.

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Old 21-09-2020, 07:35   #53
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Re: We were attacked by Orcas!!!

elephants do it all the time...
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Orcas can be teenagers too. Sometimes no rhyme or reason. LR
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Old 21-09-2020, 08:14   #55
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Maybe their trying to say something?
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Re: We were attacked by Orcas!!!

My husband sent me this article just last week as we are both licensed captains in Alaska and try to keep up on unusual marine life events:

https://www.foxnews.com/science/scie...s-orca-attacks
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Herman Melville wrote Moby Dick (1851) based on a notorious White Whale in the Pacific named Mocha Dick (Albino Sperm Whale (1810 ~ 1859)) and coupled it with the true events of the Nanatucket Whaler "Essex" which was stove and sunk (1820) by an aggressive sperm whale.

There have historically been accounts of whale's ramming boats at sea. I'm not saying these things are related....just that they are not unprecedented.
Except Orcas are not really "whales", they are a type of dolphin.
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I have been 'reliably' informed that if you carry a length of scaffold type pipe and lower it in to the water and hit it it repeatedly with a hammer, it will drive them away. Apparently they cannot stand the sound. I understand it is used in the oil industry when they have divers in the water. I always thought they used deep divers diving from submerged diving 'bells' but there you go.

Might be an additional use for that long piece of scaffold like pipe (called a spinnaker/whisker pole) that many of has happen to have aboard.
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Old 21-09-2020, 09:37   #59
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Re: We were attacked by Orcas!!!

I know that Wikipedia is widely criticized for not having the best info but much of this article we could verify by being there.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_(killer_whale)


Circumnavigating Vancouver Island was our shake down cruise in 2004 before we left Anacortes to go offshore our first time to Mexico and beyond. It has some pretty remote and relatively unused bays but Nootka Sound is not one of those.



We met up at the dock for boats to pull up to this little store to get fuel and a few provisions for a little variety. There was a smaller sloop at the dock when we arrived. We had a couple of chats with them. They were clearly traumatized by an encounter with a famous loner orca named Luna by the white eyes but he did have a native american name which I don't remember. There were many articles about Luna, some kind, some informative, and some not so kind.


The local tribe believed orcas to be sacred animals to be protected. Luna got separated from its mother and their pod and lived in Nootka Sound for several years. He had a reputation for damaging boats mostly by pushing their rudders around.


The couple in the boat ahead of us had met up with Luna across the sound at a little dock. While at the dock Luna pushed their (I'll say 35' but don't remember) boat up on to the side of the dock which must have been just at the water line, more like a float really. It damaged their rudder and put a big gouge in their hull. They were besides themselves and afraid to go back out in the Sound even though they were now on the north side and well away from where Luna reportedly hung out.



We were advised on the radio to avoid the southern end of the Sound to avoid meeting up with Luna. It was thought by many that she was definitely acting much different than other orcas. There was a big (BIG) to do between the tribe and the government and other locals as to what to do with Luna.



In any case there were well documented encounters of the worse kind with Luna. Our local waters are full of orcas during the times they are hunting with a few different pods. I have not heard of any bad encounters with those pods and boats.
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I suspect that someone shot one of their family from a boat.
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