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24-10-2015, 12:39
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#166
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Boat: dinghies and monohulls small and large
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
Jeez guys, sorry. Peace out!
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24-10-2015, 13:20
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#167
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Germany
Boat: 2ft wide dreaming chair
Posts: 311
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
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Originally Posted by Cherise
Jeez guys, sorry. Peace out!
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30 years ago, you probably would have gotten a BBC World or Discovery Channel coverage explaining the ins and outs of this particular hurricane.
nowadays it's just:
"new World Hurrincane Record!!!111"
"hmm nothing terrible happened"
"ok let's get back to Donald and Daisy"
so yes you are kind of right asking about the Media coverage beeing a bit lacking.
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24-10-2015, 14:03
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#168
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: W Carib
Boat: Wildcat 35, Hobie 33
Posts: 13,506
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
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Originally Posted by Simonsays
30 years ago, you probably would have gotten a BBC World or Discovery Channel coverage explaining the ins and outs of this particular hurricane.
nowadays it's just:
"new World Hurrincane Record!!!111"
"hmm nothing terrible happened"
"ok let's get back to Donald and Daisy"
so yes you are kind of right asking about the Media coverage beeing a bit lacking.
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Hurricanes unfortunately have become media events in themselves. First noticed this years ago when living in Florida, a storm was heading toward E FL (forget the name). It was only a Cat 2 and not forecast to strengthen, but the media was pitching it as a "monster" storm.
When NOAA started to downgrade the forecast, the media chose not to report that and continued the monster storm hype. It was almost 24 hours before they gave up on the media event and started reporting the down graded forecast.
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24-10-2015, 14:43
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#169
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Bieroc 36 foot Ketch
Posts: 4,957
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
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Originally Posted by Cherise
Is it just me, or did the media make way too much hype about it being the worse hurricane ever? I mean Katrina.....hello! Perhaps its micro size was why?
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It's just you
But it's understandable. The media loves a good disaster of any kind as it gives them days and some times weeks of media attention and stories. It's often why the media are seen as parasites.
But in this case they were right to broadcaste it as it was. People needed to know and is so often the case the public will best respond to panic rather than cautionary and if they did that with Patricia and she didn't blow out, the reporting could have been about the worst disaster seen in recent history.
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24-10-2015, 14:54
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#170
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: Prior boats: Transpac 49; DeFever 54
Posts: 2,874
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
Great to hear you and Bubba survived the blow, Zee. Hoping there is minimal damage to Solitary Bird as well. Cheers, Phil
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24-10-2015, 16:32
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#171
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Boat: 2018 Seadoo GTX 230
Posts: 1,059
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
It is all for advertising $$$. More viewers equal more $$$.
I live on land in the north US. I hate the named storms for every snow fall. In the old days it was just called 'winter'.
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24-10-2015, 17:55
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#172
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Boat: dinghies and monohulls small and large
Posts: 88
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
This is why I don't spend much time on forums, too many direct or passive aggressive responses that I bet if were in person would be much leas "drama".
How else are you to encourage real, young to middle aged actual sailors, cruises, liveaboards???
Someone else might agree and say - yeah the US media making out Mexico to be worse than it is. Sorry, I guess Im just a Bozo!
Anyhow, I was just giving a shout to Zee/Karen.
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24-10-2015, 18:16
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#173
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: Seawind 1000xl
Posts: 7,501
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
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Originally Posted by Cherise
This is why I don't spend much time on forums, too many direct or passive aggressive responses that I bet if were in person would be much leas "drama".
How else are you to encourage real, young to middle aged actual sailors, cruises, liveaboards???
Someone else might agree and say - yeah the US media making out Mexico to be worse than it is. Sorry, I guess Im just a Bozo!
Anyhow, I was just giving a shout to Zee/Karen.
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No you are not a Bozo and yes probably the majority of those on CF are guilty of being passive aggressive, maybe even myself😁. Please don't take it personally, it's just the internet!
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24-10-2015, 18:37
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#174
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
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Originally Posted by powsmias
hey zee just curious but as fast as this developed, do you see many cruisers or locals trying to get into the area you are at since it's one of the better places to hole up in or are they being turned away? all the best
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only one casualty
mega off ahore trying to come into marina in brunt of storm ended up on the rocks. oops. all hands saved.
this marina is very empty and turns away no one.
is a good place. i weathered 19 storms in 2013 here and those we had slide by last year, and this year. we had 21 last year, 5 of which went as majors out to sea.
patricia was a wierdo. history making.
the protection of being inside a nook in a protected lagoon designed to limit swell and surge....invaluable.
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24-10-2015, 18:46
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#175
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
Cherise, I think you need to consider your timing and the emotions of many CF. members who consider Zee family...
We know that she would have been very reluctant to leave her home and also looking for any excuse to return early....
Many of us knew this storm did not have the age to become a sustained risk, (see my post 129)...but the goal was to get Zee's stubborn ass safely ashore.....(Thanks Mark and Atoll)
I would like to think the media and government had the same objective to err on the side of caution.
If you have trouble keeping your toes outside the door, then don't make controversial statements..
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24-10-2015, 19:08
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#176
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Whoo! Finally made it back to Mexico!
Boat: Cheoy Lee Offshore 38
Posts: 1,458
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
Glad you and kitty are safe Zeehag. How fares your boat?
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24-10-2015, 19:17
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#177
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Southern California
Posts: 588
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
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Originally Posted by zeehag
only one casualty
mega off ahore trying to come into marina in brunt of storm ended up on the rocks. oops. all hands saved.
this marina is very empty and turns away no one.
is a good place. i weathered 19 storms in 2013 here and those we had slide by last year, and this year. we had 21 last year, 5 of which went as majors out to sea.
patricia was a wierdo. history making.
the protection of being inside a nook in a protected lagoon designed to limit swell and surge....invaluable.
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Great to hear from ya! This must mean that you, boat, and kitty, and everyone else made it thru safely. Good news!
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24-10-2015, 19:20
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#178
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelagic
Many of us knew this storm did not have the age to become a sustained risk, (see my post 129)...but the goal was to get Zee's stubborn ass safely ashore.....(Thanks Mark and Atoll)
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HEY! YOU! I MEAN YOU! There's only ONE person that get's credit for getting Zee off the boat, and that's Zeehag! Don't you damned well forget it! And quit gloating!
Well done Zee!
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24-10-2015, 19:21
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#179
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
Great news Zee.....we have had our fill of them this year in the Philippines.
Did you get the name of the mega that ended up on rocks?
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24-10-2015, 19:35
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#180
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: Seawind 1000xl
Posts: 7,501
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Re: Watch out for Patricia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelagic
Cherise, I think you need to consider your timing and the emotions of many CF. members who consider Zee family...
We know that she would have been very reluctant to leave her home and also looking for any excuse to return early....
Many of us knew this storm did not have the age to become a sustained risk, (see my post 129)...but the goal was to get Zee's stubborn ass safely ashore.....(Thanks Mark and Atoll)
I would like to think the media and government had the same objective to err on the side of caution.
If you have trouble keeping your toes outside the door, then don't make controversial statements.. 
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Sustained risk? Could you explain? Though this storm didn't cover a lot of area was because it was intense. If it had covered a larger area the outer bands would have hit the coast long before the eye and the storm would have weakened substantially before landfall. That's why most large cat 5 storms never make it to shore as cat 5's. The quickly developing storms that reach the level of cat 5 and don't have the chance to expand in size are usually the ones that cause a lot of destruction, but usually to a small area. Hurricane Andrew in 1992 comes to mind.
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