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29-11-2017, 21:40
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#106
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CF Adviser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
Got it...I'm not as up to date as you are on what has happened since he left.
He definitely needs to mend fences with the locals and find a way to salvage, if practical.
My memory of Aboriginal villages were not exactly pictures of environmental sensitivity because of their remote locations. [emoji6]
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29-11-2017, 21:43
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#107
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Moderator and Certifiable Refitter
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South of 43 S, Australia
Boat: C.L.O.D.
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
And yet in the same waters, there are a shipload of wrecks that are protected...
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29-11-2017, 21:46
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#108
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Moderator and Certifiable Refitter
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Location: South of 43 S, Australia
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by Pelagic
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My memory of Aboriginal villages were not exactly pictures of environmental sensitivity because of their remote locations. [emoji6]
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As usual, it is case of do as we say, not what we do; plus a large dose of politics and perhaps money...
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangereous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T.E. Lawrence
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29-11-2017, 22:58
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#109
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2014
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
so, to salvage one would need to remove batteries, electronics, engines oil, petrol, diesel and similar and leave mast rigging and fiberglass to sea driving it out in deeper water and sink it.
that should not be too hard ?
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30-11-2017, 00:31
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#110
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Australia
Boat: Milkraft 60 ex trawler
Posts: 4,651
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
Did anyone else find it interesting that there were low battery alarms blaring, not enough power to run lights etc but plenty of power to run cameras and apparently to upload to social media?
What am I missing here?
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30-11-2017, 09:45
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#111
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Join Date: May 2017
Location: Katy, TX
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by Simi 60
Did anyone else find it interesting that there were low battery alarms blaring, not enough power to run lights etc but plenty of power to run cameras and apparently to upload to social media?
What am I missing here?
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Probably the camera(s) had their own batteries and the uploads were done weeks after they were safely returned to land. Neither required boat batteries.
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30-11-2017, 12:22
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#112
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Irish Sea
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by IslandHopper
You give up insurance then you have 100% responsibility to clean your mess up, no sympathy here...
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Am I missing something, didn't he had liability insurance??
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Originally Posted by arsenelupiga
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Removing fuel and oil from a half-sunk boat is tricky, just as removing half a ton of lead batteries...
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30-11-2017, 13:14
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#113
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,136
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
"Am I missing something, didn't he had liability insurance??"
Liability insurance will help to protect him if the rock he damaged goes to court and sues him. Lucky for him, rocks are usually not litigious.
It will not cover wreck removal, environmental cleanup, or other issues. Those are separate policy additions ("endorsements") not covered under liability alone.
If that area is any type of "sanctuary" or "reserve"...Yes, he could find whoever administrates it coming after him to removal and cleanup. Or they might decide that since he has no assets, it doesn't pay for them to bother, and to let the wreck lie.
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01-12-2017, 20:03
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#114
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Join Date: May 2017
Location: Scotland
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by Simi 60
Did anyone else find it interesting that there were low battery alarms blaring, not enough power to run lights etc but plenty of power to run cameras and apparently to upload to social media?
What am I missing here?
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Possibly quite a lot , just wondering how long it would / will be before they are calling him the “Kimberly dingbats “ .
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01-12-2017, 20:28
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#115
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,136
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
Video cameras have their own built-in batteries, which often can run them for hours, and vloggers often have three or more sets of those batteries, usually fully charged on the shelf.
A number of video cameras will also run and recharge from a 5V "USB power bank" which of course is independent of the ship's 12V power, and even then, could probably be recharged a number of times from a dying 12V battery, until it ran down to 5V.
A battery alarm, possibly at 11-11.7 volts on the ship's power, wouldn't impact a video camera that way.
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01-12-2017, 21:23
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#116
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Boat: Roberts 45
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by Simi 60
Did anyone else find it interesting that there were low battery alarms blaring, not enough power to run lights etc but plenty of power to run cameras and apparently to upload to social media?
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He didn't edit and upload the video while he was knee-deep in the water! Also his later comments in front of a white wall were likely not taken while he was on board...
And I'm not aware how you could pump out a boat using a video camera battery.
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01-12-2017, 21:26
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#117
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Boat: Roberts 45
Posts: 1,044
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
Quote:
Originally Posted by arsenelupiga
so, to salvage one would need to remove batteries, electronics, engines oil, petrol, diesel and similar and leave mast rigging and fiberglass to sea driving it out in deeper water and sink it.
that should not be too hard ?
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500-odd miles from Broome... Maybe you can try and get a quote?
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02-12-2017, 20:29
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#118
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Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 44
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by navy davy
Everyone can help plukky by going to his YouTube channel " sailing into freedom " and clicking on the subscribe button and the bell ! Click the like [emoji106] on the vlogs he posts after watching them ! YouTube will pay him ! This is a way we all can help in his time of need ! Pass the word ! Thanks ! Let's get him to 100,000 subscribers !
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You only get paid on views that meet YT’s mysterious criteria for counting. Likes and subscribes mean nothing.
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02-12-2017, 20:41
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#119
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 44
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by Mozzie
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of vlogs that just objectify women either. A lot of his videos don't really tell a story. They're just a montage of scantily clad women. It's just uncreative and lazy.
I guess a little bit is unavoidable given that many cruisers spend a lot of time in their swimwear, and it can be done tastefully.
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Lol. You think the audience is cruisers or sailors! It’s teenage boys with itchy clickers. This checks all the boxes for that demographic.
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02-12-2017, 20:56
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#120
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Victoria BC
Boat: Aloha 34
Posts: 256
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by wincrasher
You only get paid on views that meet YT’s mysterious criteria for counting. Likes and subscribes mean nothing.
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The $ is not in youtube for most people, it's in Patreon.
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