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13-11-2017, 09:27
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
Perhaps that is his plan as he wants to get it onshore , can't see any other way to do it .
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13-11-2017, 20:07
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#62
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
In one of Peter's first videos, he proudly listed all of the gear he had pulled out of the Crowther 42 in order to make a "green" boat: generator, refrigerator, aircon. He then pointed to the helm station laughing: "only a couple of these switches work". In a recent video he frowned upon electronic waypoints, showing how he remembered a reef position by eyeballing opposing shore landmarks.
I understand that the North OZ coast won't have the best detail on a chartplotter but you have to wonder if he even HAD such a working device. Also, a serious pump on board might have changed the equation, if only he had kept that generator?
It would be nice to hear the gory details from the self-titled "Captain Wrong" himself. It sounds like motoring at night in high current with crazy tides in a somewhat "uncharted" area was the mistake. I won't judge this guy for being a minimalist-adventure-hippie, but I WOULD like to tell my concerned sailing partner: "Don't worry- we'll never do it like he did it."
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13-11-2017, 20:46
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#63
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by Dave_S
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Australian marine survey is extremely accurate. If an area says unsurveyed then stay out.
I first sailed Great Barrier Reef waters in 1961 and lots of remarks have Flinders remarks. Some were still in place in charts of the mid 70s. The charts of today have been produced from a highly organised division of the Australian Navy. From sea and air they have been surveyed showing intimate detail.
Sometimes a skipper makes a mistake and blames his tool.
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13-11-2017, 22:31
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#64
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by james247
Australian marine survey is extremely accurate. If an area says unsurveyed then stay out.
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Hmm -even in the Whitsunday area there are a few areas where the charts are market as unsurveyed (or the survey is not really accurate). A couple of them are actually quite nice anchorages.
Mike
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13-11-2017, 23:46
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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From sea and air they have been surveyed showing intimate detail.
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Haven't sailed much in Tasmania, have you?
No detailed charts whatsoever for much of the coast, and the surveys for the rest of the area are pretty dated.
Hobart, the D'Entrecasteaux, and even Port Davey have great charts. I think some of the northern ports are well charted (where the commercial ships go) but the rest is pretty poorly represented. Part of the charm of Tassie...
Jim
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14-11-2017, 00:09
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
He reminds me of Alby Mangels...
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14-11-2017, 00:25
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by Mozzie
He reminds me of Alby Mangels...
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Well, be that as it may, not all areas are well charted, and Tasmania's west coast, in particular, has large "unsurveyed" zones. These are fished by cray fishers, some of whom are wooden, rather than GRP or metal. Those vessels make poor radar targets. So, if you happen to sail through those waters, best to keep the radar on, (for the metal boats), and a wide eye out.
Ann
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14-11-2017, 01:11
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
I'm personally not into v-loggers that make videos like this. Butts, boob's, and booze.
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14-11-2017, 02:46
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by JPA Cate
Well, be that as it may, not all areas are well charted, and Tasmania's west coast, in particular, has large "unsurveyed" zones. These are fished by cray fishers, some of whom are wooden, rather than GRP or metal. Those vessels make poor radar targets. So, if you happen to sail through those waters, best to keep the radar on, (for the metal boats), and a wide eye out.
Ann
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My comparison to Alby was more a general one, and not specifically relating to the conversation about uncharted areas.
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14-11-2017, 03:00
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by Palarran
I'm personally not into v-loggers that make videos like this. Butts, boob's, and booze.
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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of vlogs that just objectify women either. A lot of his videos don't really tell a story. They're just a montage of scantily clad women. It's just uncreative and lazy.
I guess a little bit is unavoidable given that many cruisers spend a lot of time in their swimwear, and it can be done tastefully.
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14-11-2017, 03:24
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by Mozzie
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of vlogs that just objectify women either.
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I just don't get it.....
Boats are objects of beauty.
Women swimming underwater are objects of beauty to me.
That video showed them all having fun with the girls mimicking his Aussie humor and objectifying him.
It was a good laugh!
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14-11-2017, 03:31
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
You can't be light hearted. You need to learned to get triggered and upset. SMH old people. 😱😆
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14-11-2017, 03:46
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by Pelagic
I just don't get it.....
Boats are objects of beauty.
Women swimming underwater are objects of beauty to me.
That video showed them all having fun with the girls mimicking his Aussie humor and objectifying him.
It was a good laugh!
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those girls would be a bit overdressed for the med
and a wet suit just does not cut the mustard next to my speedos for walking round town
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14-11-2017, 14:12
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
Don't get me wrong, I'm a straight male with everything that that entails... but I just find his videos (not just that one) crude.
It's not even how dressed they are. He had one video which was ~10 minutes of the girls free diving in bikinis with a voice over of whether they were admiring the coral or the sand. Maybe if there was a minute of it in bigger video it would be funny. But 10 straight minutes of it?
My personal preference is for vlogs with some kind of story, where they talk about the places they are visiting, about their experiences etc.
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14-11-2017, 16:14
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Re: Vloggers hit an uncharted rock/reef in the Kimberleys
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Originally Posted by Mozzie
My personal preference is for vlogs with some kind of story, where they talk about the places they are visiting, about their experiences etc.
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I agree and Delos remains my favorite, especially as they evolve into a mentor status.
But both are selling a fantasy turned into a reality and can't help themselves from spicing things up. (Which I enjoy as does my girl)
Its a shame that this guy lost his boat and we may never see his evolution from having NNC's on board (Nubile Newbie Crew) to more experienced crew that may have tempered and helped him with his decision making process .
I really hope he can get back on the water as he belongs there.
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