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24-05-2012, 04:01
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#61
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 141
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
I am going to be in Sumy in 4 days if you have his address I will go there.
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08-10-2012, 06:13
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#62
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
Hi, everybody!
If somebody still have interest to get more information about this person P.Shaposhnikov and his workshop in Sumy - I can tell you a lot!
Write me here or e-mail me. You also can call me, but unfortunately I'm in Russia now, so it might be rather expensive.
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08-10-2012, 17:57
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#63
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: South Pacific; Fiji, Vanuatu
Boat: Herreschoff 52'
Posts: 20
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
Hi korm4y: yes I'd be interested to hear what you have to say !
Regards,
Ethereal.
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09-10-2012, 05:16
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#64
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 141
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
I am interested in hearing about him. I was in Sumy for 24 hours and just did not get out to the address I had.
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27-01-2013, 15:25
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#65
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
Happy New Year! Everybody!
As I've already said I KNOW THIS PERSON - P.P. SHAPOSHIKOV - VERY WELL!!!
And can tell a whole story for everyone who really interesting in this point.
The only easy day was yesterday.
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The only easy day was yesterday...
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27-01-2013, 16:03
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#66
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: South Pacific; Fiji, Vanuatu
Boat: Herreschoff 52'
Posts: 20
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
Hello korm4y,
I am interested to hear what you have to say
Kindest regards,
Ethereal.
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19-01-2014, 08:22
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#67
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 51,649
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, teskolin.
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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20-01-2014, 05:20
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#68
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
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Originally Posted by teskolin
To all readers of this forum: NEVER, NEVER even think of ordering anything from Pavel Shaposhnikov - that would the biggest mistake you can make in your life!
I've done that mistake. We had a binding contract with Pavel Shaposhnikov for making a ready yacht for us. The ... thing, you can not even call it a boat... he finally delivered to us after many months of negotiations was totally different that we had in our contract.
I have spent 6 years of my life and more than 100.000 euros in trying to make the boat something that can be used for sailing. Finally this week a boatbuilder came to see the ... thing.. and told that the materials that Pavel Shaposhnikov has used in making the boat, are not even suitable to be used in connection with water. The only alternative would be to tear the whole boat to pieces and start making a new yacht practically from scratch.
Pavel Shaposhnikov is the biggest cheater and liar that I can think of - what I have understood of Ukraine and the Ukranian people thay are all the same. Never do any business with any Ukranian company if you can avoid that!
If it is hard to believe this, I can send you pictures of the ... thing... that will be soon transported to a landfill site.
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HOW VERY TRUE!!! I'd like to see photos! I lost a lot of money with sHAPOSHNIKOV (I start write his name from low register to show my UNRESPECTION to him!!!)
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20-01-2014, 05:29
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#69
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
Dear teskolin
Please, if you can, find me in Skype (My name there is "korm4y")
I'd like to know more about this P.P.Sh. He owes me a lot of money!!!
Pavel Shaposhnikov is the biggest cheater and liar...
If it is hard to believe this
No, not so hard!
I can send you pictures of the ... thing... that will be soon transported to a landfill site.
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20-01-2014, 07:41
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#70
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NJ
Boat: Dickerson Ketch
Posts: 378
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
Hi Teskolin..
I feel you pain. I to was taken by this "Builder".. try to warn people but it seems true postings are questioned.
I have pictures, the contract, the legal filings.. This guy is a basically a fraud.
I have liens filed on the partially completed vessel. If anyone is dumb enough to hire him to finish my vessel.. I'll glad take it off you once I locate you and it.. And don't take the word of Pavel's Broker in Ct/USA..
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20-01-2014, 07:44
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#71
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NJ
Boat: Dickerson Ketch
Posts: 378
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
I can be reached at jbsurfin@att.net
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24-02-2014, 18:55
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#72
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fairfield Harbour, New Bern, NC
Boat: Down East 45 Brigantine schooner
Posts: 1,320
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
I know what! I’m damn glad I didn’t buy a boat from the Ukraine. I can’t imagine any warranty being worth much now—not that it would have been anyway.
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www.schooner-britannia.com.
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25-02-2014, 10:11
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#73
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: NJ
Boat: Dickerson Ketch
Posts: 378
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
At this stage I would think any business dealing in the Ukraine let alone with Pavel are dead and done.
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25-02-2014, 10:38
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#74
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Roger
I know what! I’m damn glad I didn’t buy a boat from the Ukraine. I can’t imagine any warranty being worth much now—not that it would have been anyway.
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Dude, you came so close to that checkbook and $5k
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25-02-2014, 10:45
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#75
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,820
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Re: Ukraine Boat Builders Inquiry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Roger
I know what! I’m damn glad I didn’t buy a boat from the Ukraine. I can’t imagine any warranty being worth much now—not that it would have been anyway.
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Its worth a bit more money to have boats built in stable countries.
BTW wonder how many days before Russia invades? Its Tuesday now, I reckon by the weekend.
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