|
|
18-08-2013, 16:20
|
#1
|
CF Adviser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: sausalito
Boat: 14 meter sloop
Posts: 7,260
|
Twenty Knots
Bash is wondering how cruisers deal with true wind speeds of 20 knots. Throw in a reef? Put up the blade? Go jib and jigger?
Out on SF Bay this afternoon it's blowing 20 knots, AND THEY JUST CANCELLED THE AMERICAS CUP RACE!!!!!!!
Sheesh. Too much wind to race. $100,000,000 sailboats can't handle 20 knots?
Embarrassing.
__________________
cruising is entirely about showing up--in boat shoes.
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 16:41
|
#3
|
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,687
|
Re: Twenty knots
Those are not sailboats. They are wind powered machines. If I read correctly, one of the things that the crew members carry is a minature scuba tank that is supposed to give them 10 minutes breathing time if trapped under water. It makes me think that they are unsafe from the getgo. Most sports are dangerous to a certain point, so why put restrictions on what fanatics want to do? Oh how I miss the 12 meters. ____Grant.
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 16:41
|
#4
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central California
Boat: M/V Carquinez Coot
Posts: 3,782
|
Re: Twenty knots
Those particular AC sailboats are unseaworthy. Conditions need to be benign.
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 16:48
|
#6
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central California
Boat: M/V Carquinez Coot
Posts: 3,782
|
Re: Twenty knots
What! No race today?
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 17:05
|
#7
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Now limited to seasonal NE sailing
Boat: PT-11
Posts: 1,541
|
Re: Twenty knots
True n all, but seeing them go is an amazing sight.
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 17:16
|
#8
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,437
|
Re: Twenty knots
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash
(...) Sheesh. Too much wind to race. $100,000,000 sailboats can't handle 20 knots?
Embarrassing.
|
And you ask an F1 car to drive country roads too?
These boats are built to sail round the cans fastest. It is called racing.
These boats are a finger pointed to the moon.
The quoted USD 100,000,000 is likely a campaign cost, not the cost of the sailboat.
I love to watch but hope there will be some more racing action too - as it is now it is fantastic boats but not much match racing.
The future is now.
Cheers,
b.
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 17:17
|
#9
|
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hurricane Highway
Boat: O'Day 28
Posts: 3,920
|
Re: Twenty knots
It was blowing like stink coupla days ago. Marina like a graveyard. Liveaboard couple down the way went day sailing.
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 17:20
|
#10
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,437
|
Re: Twenty knots
It depends.
Upwind we are already reefed. If we are in for an extended bash, blade will be up (well, sort of blade).
Downwind, we will be still under full main and possibly a kite too. But not at night. At night we will have one reef in the main and partly furled genoa.
b.
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 17:24
|
#11
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Nova Scotia until Spring 2021
Boat: Custom 41' Steel Pilothouse Cutter
Posts: 4,976
|
Re: Twenty knots
Quote:
Originally Posted by barnakiel
It depends.
Upwind we are already reefed. If we are in for an extended bash, blade will be up (well, sort of blade).
Downwind, we will be still under full main and possibly a kite too. But not at night. At night we will have one reef in the main and partly furled genoa.
b.
|
Pretty well this. I am under the impression that wind makes the boat go, and I am generally prepared to use it without much worry under 30 knots, at which point on the 33 footer I start reefing down the main, and on the 41 footer I roll up the Yankee and keep the staysail flying.
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 17:32
|
#12
|
cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
|
Re: Twenty knots
20kts is nothing on this coast--they are wimpish those arent sailboats.
a GOOD cruising boat can handle anything its owner can handle--jib n jigger in this boat so far--60 kts actual wind with 8.4 boatspeed. they call it a chubasco. they happen off baja and inside golfo de california. short warning of less than 30 min.
those dont happen here--instead we get ts and furycames that either form right overhead or come back into here as did jova innov 2011. normal daily winds in lagoon here are 20-35 kts .
daysailing with my boat--wind would have to be a good steady 20 kts to start with so we could actually leave the bay......
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 18:09
|
#13
|
cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
|
Re: Twenty Knots
You're kidding, right?
What's considered the ideal wind conditions for this stupid event?
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 18:10
|
#14
|
CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,415
|
Re: Twenty Knots
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash
Bash is wondering how cruisers deal with true wind speeds of 20 knots. Throw in a reef? Put up the blade? Go jib and jigger?
Out on SF Bay this afternoon it's blowing 20 knots, AND THEY JUST CANCELLED THE AMERICAS CUP RACE!!!!!!!
Sheesh. Too much wind to race. $100,000,000 sailboats can't handle 20 knots?
Embarrassing.
|
I put in a reef. Is that even possible on those "boats"?
__________________
Don't ask a bunch of unknown forum people if it is OK to do something on YOUR boat. It is your boat, do what you want!
|
|
|
18-08-2013, 18:29
|
#15
|
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: FN QLD
Boat: Junk rig Schooner
Posts: 209
|
Re: Twenty Knots
If AC went back to slow heavy boats no one would watch it. Its good to see cats performing at their true potential, considering they used to be banned. Now they are actually flying. Amazing stuff.
|
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Rate This Thread |
Linear Mode
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Advertise Here
Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Vendor Spotlight |
|
|
|
|
|