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31-10-2013, 08:05
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#241
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
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Originally Posted by Scott Berg
I've read this thread with amazement… CHARDONNAY, with her 49' waterline and 78' main mast and a ton of sail, barely averages 200 miles per day in trade wind conditions… into the Stream, we'd figure 170 MAX and average about 150.
And again, we like to think we know what we're doing!!
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There will be almost no contrary current on the line we are taking from nj to the cape.
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31-10-2013, 08:14
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#242
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,133
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
On Black Diamond's own blog Ed says: "We anticipate 6-8 days at sea, non-stop."
of course he also mentions a five day trip, but waiting at Cape May for a couple of days for a weather window, or adding a couple of days if someone wants to stay closer inshore running down the Florida coast.
Five "days", roughly 120 hours, for a trip from NYC to southern Florida, roughly 1100 miles assuming you're not tacking all the way (which could make that into 1500 sea miles very quickly)...You need a reasonably BIG fast boat to maintain nine knots or so, all the way, day and night, for five days.
Which could be why he's planned for seven days, plus or minus one.
A trip that fast doesn't give a man proper time to get his scrimshaw finished, does it? That hardly seems right.
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31-10-2013, 08:21
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#243
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL
Boat: 43 ft Selene/Solo
Posts: 688
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
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Do not go where the path may lead.........
go instead where there is no path........
and leave a trail.
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31-10-2013, 10:22
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#244
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Boat: Moving Other Peoples Boats
Posts: 3,466
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scoobert
I told my crew member 8-10 days. We have food, enough for 90 days. 250 gallons of water. 200 12 oz bottles of water. I have to work in 30 days. So as long as we hit tampa in less then a month....
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I am confused.
You are provisioning for 90 days X 3 people X 3 meals. That is 810 servings. In all likelihood, you will not use most of it. How are you provisioning? Yes I know often one foes not eat 3 meals, but you still have to get the calories into the body.
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31-10-2013, 10:31
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#245
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 322
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
Weather really changes around here in November, fasten your seatbelts it will be a very bumpy ride.
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31-10-2013, 10:36
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#246
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
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Originally Posted by Snore
I am confused.
You are provisioning for 90 days X 3 people X 3 meals. That is 810 servings. In all likelihood, you will not use most of it. How are you provisioning? Yes I know often one foes not eat 3 meals, but you still have to get the calories into the body.
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Our bilge is full of canned foods. On top of that is 50# or so of rice, suplies to make about 30 loaves of bread.
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31-10-2013, 11:08
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#247
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Hailing Minny, MN
Boat: Vancouver 27
Posts: 1,088
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
As a bit of an outlier..did a trip from NYC to So FL years ago with some buddies on a 37' O'Day and it took us 2 months to make it down! Granted that we left in Dec and didn't know what we were doing...
But I would think a month should certainly be sufficient
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31-10-2013, 14:44
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#248
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: On the boat, somewhere in Australia.
Boat: Swanson 42 & Kelly Peterson 44
Posts: 8,760
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
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Originally Posted by boatman61
That was supposed to be a witticism to Vasco's 'Freeboard'...
"No its not free... $40/day for food and board..."
Ahhh... fergit it... if ya gotta explain it aint funny...
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I got it
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31-10-2013, 15:06
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#249
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Avalon, NJ
Boat: Albin 40 double cabin Trawler
Posts: 1,886
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
Quote:
Originally Posted by scoobert
There will be almost no contrary current on the line we are taking from nj to the cape.
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That singular line proves just about everyone's point....
Unless you sail to a point south of Miami east of the Bahamas (or through them)...you will have contrary current at some point.
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31-10-2013, 15:09
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#250
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Avalon, NJ
Boat: Albin 40 double cabin Trawler
Posts: 1,886
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
oooopppps...went back and read Post #1...
here's your quote...
"i have heard there is some place in the Carolinas that you should take the ICW because the ocean in that area is crazy, where is that? "
that equally proves just about everyone else's points....
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31-10-2013, 15:23
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#251
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
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Originally Posted by psneeld
oooopppps...went back and read Post #1...
here's your quote...
"i have heard there is some place in the Carolinas that you should take the ICW because the ocean in that area is crazy, where is that? "
that equally proves just about everyone else's points....
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And thats why i am going with people who have done the trip before
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31-10-2013, 15:26
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#252
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Avalon, NJ
Boat: Albin 40 double cabin Trawler
Posts: 1,886
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
Quote:
Originally Posted by scoobert
And thats why i am going with people who have done the trip before
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If they agree with the 5 day estimate and no contrary current then they haven't done th trip before...
If they don't agree with your 5 day estimate..then they can tell you about the scary places in NC....
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31-10-2013, 15:38
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#253
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
We will be checking the weather before the cape, and decide before we arrive.
I have a currents chart for the atlantic. I can tell you we have none by looking at that.
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31-10-2013, 15:43
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#254
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Traverse City, Mi
Boat: Catalina 34MKII
Posts: 113
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
OK, I am confused. You state you are going with two Canadians that have done the trip before. You also state that your crew "member" knows the timing. So, are the Canadians on your boat or are you three boats heading south with seperate crews?
If they are in their own boats, and are experienced crews and know how to sail, how are you going to keep with them?
Whatever, good luck~
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31-10-2013, 15:47
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#255
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cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: medusa NY
Boat: Tayana Surprise 45 schooner "Union Pacific"
Posts: 2,097
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Re: Transit time? NY-FL
3 boats.
They will stay within a few miles of me.
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