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30-12-2015, 10:34
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#481
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Sabre 28-2
Posts: 3,197
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
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Originally Posted by bob_77903
All these guys your arguing with have a LOT of experience and time in the Bahamas. Not sure about your time there.
Also, locals don't want our rubber dinghy's, they want the outboards. Half the time the dinghy is found minus the outboard.
And as has been stated, they steal power boats, not sailboats. I've not heard of a sailboat being stolen from the Bahamas.
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Clearly power boats.
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30-12-2015, 10:36
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#482
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Now based on Florida's West coast
Boat: Pearson 34-II
Posts: 2,541
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
" I invite you to generate a poll on this forum and discover the overwhelming number of people who agree with me on this." sneuman
Look, Neuman,
If you know me, I would never in any state of mind, whether lucid or delusional, contradict the power of THE HERD. This, my friend(I hope I haven't been presumptive), would be nothing short of emotional suicide . . . the only thing I can't quite seem to master is the heartfelt bleat . . . .Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, Baaaaaaaaaaaah, Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Sincerely with undue respect and humility, Captain Rognvald, a penitent on the road less travelled.
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Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathrustra
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30-12-2015, 10:45
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#483
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Boat: Sabre 28-2
Posts: 3,197
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rognvald
" I invite you to generate a poll on this forum and discover the overwhelming number of people who agree with me on this." sneuman
Look, Neuman,
If you know me, I would never in any state of mind, whether lucid or delusional, contradict the power of THE HERD. This, my friend(I hope I haven't been presumptive), would be nothing short of emotional suicide . . . the only thing I can't quite seem to master is the heartfelt bleat . . . .Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, Baaaaaaaaaaaah, Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Sincerely with undue respect and humility, Captain Rognvald, a penitent on the road less travelled.
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Clearly you've gone off your meds.
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30-12-2015, 10:48
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#484
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
Posts: 7,557
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
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Originally Posted by rognvald
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Your post just proves my point. Abaco, center console, 300hp. They don't want our little rubber dinks. Most people that claim their dinks stolen in the Bahamas eventually come to the realization that the dink has gone walkabout, a not uncommon occurrence when coming home after happy hour and not securing the dink properly. The other post re Tom on Dream Catcher's loss and the boat stolen from St. Francis is a recent anomaly and you should note that both were larger than your normal dink although one was a rubber one. I am quite aware of what's transpiring as far as cruisers go in the Bahamas, having regularly cruised there for the past 25 years and still doing so. What's the name of your boat, rognvald, If I ever see you there I'll give you a hail.
Just retired this one this season after many years of service. New one coming.
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Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
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30-12-2015, 10:51
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#485
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Now based on Florida's West coast
Boat: Pearson 34-II
Posts: 2,541
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sneuman
Clearly you've gone off your meds.
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Perhaps you and uncle Bob would like to talk about anchors? Good luck and good sailing . . . S. Holmes 221 B Baker St.
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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."
Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathrustra
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30-12-2015, 11:34
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#486
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Netherlands
Boat: Ohlson 29
Posts: 1,519
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
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Originally Posted by brownoarsman
The US market must be much easier than Europe. // Ocean crossing is a different ball game, but a jaunt to the Bahamas is easily covered
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The US and the Bahama's are on the same side of the ocean. Europe is not. So for us, "a jaunt to the Bahama's" IS crossing the Atlantic ...
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Dutch ♀ Liveaboard, sharing an Ohlson 29 with a feline.
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30-12-2015, 11:42
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#487
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: In transit ( Texas to wherever the wind blows us)
Boat: Pacific Seacraft a Crealock 34
Posts: 4,115
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
Ok, sorry fixed my error
Dagny's estimated drift location via Chris Parker
More pics coming(3 in all)
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30-12-2015, 11:44
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#488
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: In transit ( Texas to wherever the wind blows us)
Boat: Pacific Seacraft a Crealock 34
Posts: 4,115
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
Showing nearby towns
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30-12-2015, 11:49
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#489
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: In transit ( Texas to wherever the wind blows us)
Boat: Pacific Seacraft a Crealock 34
Posts: 4,115
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
Last one
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30-12-2015, 12:49
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#490
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Catskill Mountains when not cruising
Boat: 31' homebuilt Michalak-designed Cormorant "Sea Fever"
Posts: 2,114
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
The evidence weighing against the possibility of theft is that Dagny was sighted by the USCG 24 hours after Gil lost her, about 25 nm away. What thief would amble off at drifting speed like that? Seems to fit pretty cleanly with a boat adrift trailing her anchor.
By the way, Gil, you mentioned paying back loans. I appreciate the sentiment very much, but I for one will only accept repayment in person, with principle paid in beer or wine, and compound interest paid in stories . . . someday, someplace warm, I hope.
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30-12-2015, 13:22
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#491
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Easton, MD
Boat: 15' Catboat, Bristol 35.5
Posts: 3,510
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
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Originally Posted by Cormorant
The evidence weighing against the possibility of theft is that Dagny was sighted by the USCG 24 hours after Gil lost her, about 25 nm away. What thief would amble off at drifting speed like that? Seems to fit pretty cleanly with a boat adrift trailing her anchor.
By the way, Gil, you mentioned paying back loans. I appreciate the sentiment very much, but I for one will only accept repayment in person, with principle paid in beer or wine, and compound interest paid in stories . . . someday, someplace warm, I hope.
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Who said it was Dagny or did they just spot a boat?
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30-12-2015, 13:33
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#492
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Catskill Mountains when not cruising
Boat: 31' homebuilt Michalak-designed Cormorant "Sea Fever"
Posts: 2,114
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
Gil mentioned this on p.3, post #38. We would have to get details of the CG report from him.
"Dagny was spotted tonight December 23rd at 5:30pm, reported by the USCG, at 27-03.7N 79-16.1W. 24hrs after drifting off."
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30-12-2015, 13:38
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#493
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Antibes France
Boat: Havsfidra 20
Posts: 191
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
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I for one will only accept repayment in person, with principle paid in beer or wine, and compound interest paid in stories.
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You got it!
I will second Scott here about the possibility of theft, which is extremely unlikely here. I can't really put my finger on it, but I simply can't see anyone stealing a small sailboat here in West-End, especially where Dagny was anchored. The only way it would happen would be for the boat's contents, but again, extremely unlikely, and nothing on the outside would suggest anything valuable inside.
The hours are ticking, and I am slowly dying inside without any sighting. If Dagny hasn't hit anything, she is still floating, no doubt. Hatches were down and the bilge pump is solar powered.
I think it's starting to dawn on me how bad this whole thing is.. I am not ready to pack up and call it quits. It's not like a problem you can physically work on until it's solved, very frustrating. I would otherwise enjoy West-End, but really, not. It's all giant powerboats here, there was a 165 footer docked yesterday. I don't feel part of that world. I found a good book to read, but that's only very temporary relief.
Gil.
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30-12-2015, 13:38
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#494
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: vessel sold at LAKES ENTRANCE to a local. Currently nursing my 93 Y/o mother in Sydney. Next boat probably will be bought in the U.S.
Boat: triton 721 24' x 9' 1985 Cutter rigged.
Posts: 922
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
Mr Kmacdonald.
Allow me to test your graciousness, if you will.
With help from Monte and thinly veiled steerage from people like Lizzie and Pelagic et al, I forthwith promise to be more objective re your posts and to also be more tolerant of you. The old warrior in me becomes defensive when i stumble upon what i perceive to be cruelty to people already laying in a heap.
Please, if you can, and without retort, accept my apologies for having been so caustic toward you...please.
None here have worn the shoes of others and i am herein announcing my humility which will be accompanied by future restraint.
Please Brother, a truce?
Brian Metcalfe.
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30-12-2015, 13:41
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#495
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Antibes France
Boat: Havsfidra 20
Posts: 191
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Re: Tragedy Strikes.
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Who said it was Dagny or did they just spot a boat?
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Here is a copy of the USCG email. I had emailed them a picture of Dagny the day before.
Quote:
Good Evening,
Your vsl has been last seen at 5:20pm in posn 27-03.7n 079-16.1w.
Respectfully,
OS1 Carla Guseilo
CG Sector Miami
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Sent: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 22:29:21 +0000 (12/23/2015 05:29:21 PM)
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