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29-03-2014, 09:48
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The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
Very nice summary Boatie, thanks for taking the time to write it.
Going off topic here, reading the other thread as things unfolded reminded me of sitting in a seminar at the boat show">Miami Boat show a few years back. The speaker was a delivery captain and author that has become somewhat known, he was speaking to storm tactics. Anyway, in the course of the talk it came up that people now pay him to take them out in heavy weather. After the last thread and your summary here I bet there a more than a few who here would pay just to sail with you ... something to think about -- could keep you in beer and baccy between deliveries!
The best to you and have a great time for the rest of the delivery.
Robyn
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29-03-2014, 10:01
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
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Originally Posted by SmartMove
Very nice summary Boatie, thanks for taking the time to write it.
Going off topic here, reading the other thread as things unfolded reminded me of sitting in a seminar at the Miami Boat show a few years back. The speaker was a delivery captain and author that has become somewhat known, he was speaking to storm tactics. Anyway, in the course of the talk it came up that people now pay him to take them out in heavy weather. After the last thread and your summary here I bet there a more than a few who here would pay just to sail with you ... something to think about -- could keep you in beer and baccy between deliveries!
The best to you and have a great time for the rest of the delivery.
Robyn
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Thanks Robyn...
Not sure they'd like my company that much.. did try day chartering one summer with my 331 on the Algarve.. did not get a sniff.. and.. not sure I'd be able to take it to be honest..
Personality flaws...
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29-03-2014, 10:05
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
And you think we didn't notice???
Quick tip... Set the spot on constant track and throw it in the destination post... That'll get 'em talkin!
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29-03-2014, 10:08
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
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Originally Posted by martinworswick
Will you be using spot for the rest of the journey?
Can you recommend any beginners guides to forecasting from the waves and clouds? That seems to be a pretty useful tool to have at your disposal.
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martin, two sources: books and the internet (Google how to forecast weather).
Really...
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29-03-2014, 10:12
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
When people are in the presence of a legend they are awestruck and they tend to overlook the personality flaws 😃. Of course there is also the flip side, dealing with their personality flaws 😉
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29-03-2014, 10:30
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Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
Yehaw Boaty! Thanks once again for your wonderful thread across the Atlantic, and for putting up with all the cruft. Your openness was gutsy; your insights and adventures classic. Great learning experience in real time for all of us.
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29-03-2014, 12:04
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
Nice write up. Spot seems a tad confusing but I think your plan allowed for 10 preset messages. What did you choose as your presets. Will you change them? If yes please tell us what the the new programmed messages will say. I came up with these; 1) please help god what the hell am I doing here. 2)Never mind don't send help yet I ate some bad fish and things got weird. 3) everything is okay a big ship came up gave us water and smokes and broadcast a security message but I'm good and don't want help. 4) if I have pasta for breakfast again I am going to go mad. 5) Gone mad no need to send help but eggs would be nice. 6) I forgot to pay the visa bill before I left could you pay this ASAP. 7) a fresh salad would be really nice. 8) something is wrong the wind is perfect and I am making 7 knots. 9) the wind sucks and is always the worst direction. 10) this is the time of my life. Except it is cold the weather sucks and the boat needs constant work. No one understands me. I am out of food water fuel and eggs. I'll call you when I get in.
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29-03-2014, 12:22
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
11) Please ask Donald Crowhurst how to help me get to Europe.
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29-03-2014, 12:34
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
Boatmann wrote:
"... Another thing that’s bothered me about this episode is the fact that in spite of the experience on this forum.. and the concern and speculation.. no one contacted the Azores/Horta authorities (who knew the true situation) to provide them with my latest Spot position and how to track my progress in case the SHTF sometime down the road. ..."
With all due respect, and apart of the fact that it is a good suggestion for future occurences, the above is a hindsight conclusion, because nobody knew -or could have expected- that the authorities were out looking for you. As you said a securite or even a panpan is not a message indicating imminent danger, and one would not expect that a search posse would be launched as a result of such a message.
Anyway loved reading the thread and following your spot progress.
All the best for the second part of the voyage. Ill be following your spot progress again.
Bas.
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29-03-2014, 13:05
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
Cheers Boaty!! Thanks for the summary. I know the feeling it's not a flaw you are you and appears damm good at whatever could be tossed your way. :raises glass:
I was just as shocked as everyone finding out you were being searched for by the coasties with only a securite message. My only guess is why anger the law as each country is different and who you talk to can go either way. I guess from learning from your trip the right way especially since we have the spot location let the officials know so they at least have a idea of your progress and can make contact with you first.
I do enjoy reading all your comments on and everyone else who is positive and willing to help. I kinda can see myself for the next chapter to be a delivery skipper. I look forward to it all.
Thanks for the pictures to it looks like a nice place to stop over at.
wondering around with no destionation
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29-03-2014, 13:10
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
Thanks for giving the facts, I enjoyed the entire thread. I will be following the rest of the trip with interest. Some of the yakking between spot fixes was hilarious. I hope to have all my work done by the time you make the next port. Naww, you'll get there first. Fair winds Boatman!
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29-03-2014, 13:19
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
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Thanks....that was a great suggestion
I was thinking more of personal recommendations that people have found useful,i googled "weather forecasting at sea" and got 1110000000 results.I'm sure searching will find what i need but google can't yet give personal opinions
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29-03-2014, 13:32
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Gold Coast, Queensland Australia
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Re: The trip... Securite.. as opposed to Pan Pan or Mayday.. blah blah blah
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Originally Posted by martinworswick
Will you be using spot for the rest of the journey?
Can you recommend any beginners guides to forecasting from the waves and clouds? That seems to be a pretty useful tool to have at your disposal.
cheers
martin
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