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09-10-2017, 08:54
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Windsor, Ontario
Boat: Stevens 47
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Seahawk Paints and warranty
As most of you are aware...last year we did a complete, very expensive bottom job on Moorahme in Grenada. Over 8,500 U.S. dollars went into that job. Terence O'Connell and his crew did an awesome job, I was and still am very happy with the results of their labours.
When Moorahme was hauled out this year, there was a huge growth of barnacles all over the bottom....needless to say, we were somewhat surprised at this....the Seahawk Island 44 plus paint that we chose, at 370 U.S. dollars per gallon has a very high rating, and the highest tin and copper content available.
We contacted Seahawk through their website, and Denis Laesker, who walked us through the warranty claim process. This is a BIG shout out to Denis, and to Seahawk Paints, they honored their warranty fully, and Moorahme is being prepped and re-painted totally on their dollar, as we speak.
I am very happy that we chose a Seahawk Paints product, and we will continue to do so. Great people, great product...and they honor their warranty, with no hassles whatsoever.
Moorahme is being sanded down, and two full coats of new Seahawk Island 44 plus is being rolled on, with an extra coat on the leading edges, the waterline and the rudder.
Thank you Seahawk Paints!
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09-10-2017, 08:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
Did Seahawk determine what the problem was?
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Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
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09-10-2017, 09:06
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Windsor, Ontario
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
They are still looking into the issue. We used the dark blue as our final coat, black underneath.
Another Canadian boat friend of ours also in Antigua used the same paint, and same issue, they also took care of their boat.
I switched to black for the repair job...so now will have black, then blue, then black....lol. My friend on the other Canadian boat reported to me that he knows three other boats who had black as their final coat...and they did not have the barnacle issue that we had.....interesting.
Good news is that Seahawk Paints are very good at backing up their product.
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09-10-2017, 10:03
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Hull Diver
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
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Originally Posted by gunkylump
Highest tin content available.
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That's not saying much, considering it is a banned anti fouling paint ingredient in most seafaring nations.
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09-10-2017, 12:11
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
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Originally Posted by fstbttms
That's not saying much, considering it is a banned anti fouling paint ingredient in most seafaring nations.
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I noticed that. By tin I'm assuming TBT which is indeed banned in the first world. Does make me wonder, if the paint supposedly contained TBT and still failed, did they forget to add the metal to this batch?
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10-10-2017, 10:29
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Join Date: Dec 2014
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
I do not understand. Why would you use the same paint that performed so poorly? Doesn't make sense to me.
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10-10-2017, 10:33
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Location: Windsor, Ontario
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
Why would I use the same paint?
I am using the same paint, different color.....hoping there was an issue with the "batch"....we shall see.
How many companies back up their warranty......and when I say back it up, they are going the whole nine yards in my opinion, they are paying to have the boat sanded, supplying the new paint, and a different color at my request, and having the paint applied?
Would you not give them another chance, and what have I got to lose in this situation?
Cheers!
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10-10-2017, 10:35
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Registered User
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
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Originally Posted by skipmac
I noticed that. By tin I'm assuming TBT which is indeed banned in the first world. Does make me wonder, if the paint supposedly contained TBT and still failed, did they forget to add the metal to this batch?
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Yes, Skipmac, your assumption is correct, it is TBT.
Cheers.
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10-10-2017, 10:40
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Hull Diver
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
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Originally Posted by gunkylump
Yes, Skipmac, your assumption is correct, it is TBT.
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And clearly you have no compunction about polluting our oceans with one of the worst poisons ever intentionally introduced into the marine environment.
Good to know.
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10-10-2017, 10:49
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
Aaaah, yes, the old personal attack mode.....
But it's ok for you to scrape off boat bottoms and leave that in the world's oceans? Do you really believe they aren't toxic?
Nice to know that you are doing that to our world's oceans as well
Cheers!
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10-10-2017, 10:54
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
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Originally Posted by gunkylump
Yes, Skipmac, your assumption is correct, it is TBT.
Cheers.
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Were you aware that TBT is banned in almost all first world countries? That fact alone of course isn't necessarily an indication of how environmentally damaging a chemical might be but in this case, the ban is quite justified and TBT is a very nasty player, very toxic and persistent.
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Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious for the benefit of the oblivious.
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10-10-2017, 10:58
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Windsor, Ontario
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
Yes, thanks, I am aware.
Cheers!
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10-10-2017, 11:01
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
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Originally Posted by gunkylump
Aaaah, yes, the old personal attack mode.....
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Perhaps you have noticed that fstbttms is, to try and put it politely, somewhat lacking in tact. While I often (definitely not always) agree with his views and opinions I seldom agree with how he chooses to deliver the message.
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Originally Posted by gunkylump
But it's ok for you to scrape off boat bottoms and leave that in the world's oceans? Do you really believe they aren't toxic?
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Of course any bottom paint it toxic to some degree. If it wasn't then it wouldn't work, at least with the current state of the technology. However, I do think there's a big difference in cleaning a boat bottom, releasing copper into the water and the environmental impact of that compared to the toxicity of TBT.
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The water is always bluer on the other side of the ocean.
Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious for the benefit of the oblivious.
Rust is the poor man's Loctite.
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10-10-2017, 11:03
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
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Originally Posted by gunkylump
Yes, thanks, I am aware.
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Aware that it is banned or aware that it is very toxic and persistent in the environment?
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The water is always bluer on the other side of the ocean.
Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious for the benefit of the oblivious.
Rust is the poor man's Loctite.
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10-10-2017, 11:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Windsor, Ontario
Boat: Stevens 47
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Re: Seahawk Paints and warranty
I am aware that there is a ban, and that there is no ban in the Caribbean. That is where I sail.
Cheers.
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