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08-02-2015, 09:01
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Cruising
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Salon or Saloon??
Contentious and vigorous debate currently underway between the Admiral and I. Is it a salon or a saloon? In my opinion, a salon (while also somewhere you can go to get a haircut) is the cabin of your boat. A saloon is where Yosemite Sam might go raise hell, or sit at a bar to drink moonshine. Thoughts?
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08-02-2015, 09:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Home port Kemah, TX Currently in Brunswick Georgia
Boat: Hunter 36
Posts: 1,524
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
It's Saloon. Break out your Nigel Calder books.
Ralph
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08-02-2015, 09:17
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Keystone CO
Boat: 50 Bene
Posts: 255
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
+1 on Saloon! Heard somewhere from someone that it originated with the old sailing ships as the place men would go to drink smoke and contemplate conquering the universe. Not sure when salon started being used to describe the main cabin on a boat but a friend who runs a boatyard in JAX definitely refers to it as the saloon.
Will
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08-02-2015, 09:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Home port Kemah, TX Currently in Brunswick Georgia
Boat: Hunter 36
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
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Originally Posted by vmattiola
Contentious and vigorous debate currently underway between the Admiral and I.
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Maybe you guys need to get this worked out before slipping the dock lines....
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...it-140709.html
Ralph
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08-02-2015, 09:33
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Marine Service Provider

Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,103
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
Your sex matters.
If you are male, it more likely called a saloon.
If you are female, it is more likely called a salon.
If you are marketing a boat to new buyers, such as the typical couple, your brochure is likely to call it a salon.
If the boat is a recent wide bodied, no handholds, open plan, floating condo, you might call it a skating rink or climbing wall, when the boat is under way in ocean swells heeled 30 degrees.
If you have had some rum or grog, you are likely to call it the Sssslllooon.
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08-02-2015, 09:57
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Southern California
Posts: 588
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
Main cabin, or better, main hold if it actually is in the main hold.
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08-02-2015, 10:17
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Noank, Ct. USA
Boat: Cape Dory 31
Posts: 3,282
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
Main cabin unless there's a Brit in earshot, then it's a saloon.
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08-02-2015, 10:35
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Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,820
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
USA salon. Rest of the world Saloooon.
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08-02-2015, 11:04
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
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Re: Salon or Saloon??

Salon
Saloon
I think it's pretty obvious...
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08-02-2015, 11:07
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
OK, searched out on line. I find no use or definition of Salon in nautical terms in three dictionaries including Oxford. Anyone got Oxford companion to ships and the sea?
However, the word saloon is derived from the French:
"from French salon"
Saloon:
The officers' mess on a merchant vessel
A large public room for use as a lounge on a ship.
So evidently you have to own a French built Beneteau or Dufour to use the term Salon! If a boatbuilder is trying to sell you (actually your wife) a boat with a Salon, then you better run! He doesn't even know what it means....
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08-02-2015, 11:12
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Cruising
Posts: 100
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
Saloon
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08-02-2015, 11:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Cruising
Posts: 100
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
Saloon
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08-02-2015, 11:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
Posts: 9,764
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
Ach, could be lots of things:
a simple misspelling (their, they're, there; weree, where; your, you're - you know, the Usual Suspects  )
the dreaded automatic spell checker on newfangled technological devices
living room - to go along with toilet, bathroom, bedroom and windows
I'm from the USA and even I say saloon
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09-02-2015, 04:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Southern California
Posts: 588
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
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Originally Posted by Cheechako
OK, searched out on line. I find no use or definition of Salon in nautical terms in three dictionaries including Oxford. Anyone got Oxford companion to ships and the sea?
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The Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea doesn't mention either salon or saloon; HOWEVER the OED defines them both! Saloon would be the correct term to use aboard a ship.
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09-02-2015, 05:18
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Canada or Spain
Boat: Jeanneau SO 43 DS
Posts: 1,159
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Re: Salon or Saloon??
It's a salon, and that word is pronounced saloon.
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