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27-10-2010, 10:01
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#46
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Richmond, VA
Boat: 1968 Pearson Wanderer 30 - "Grizabella"
Posts: 35
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When I started looking for a sailboat in the Chesapeake Bay area, I was told more than once that "there are two kinds of sailors on the Chesapeake: those who have been aground, and liars."
As a newbie, I have yet to run aground, but I'm assuming the day will come (although it something I am mildly paranoid about, so I'm very careful and watch my depth gauge, GPS chartplotter and paper charts when I'm moving around in shallow areas).
The good thing is that my boat draws 3-1/2 feet with the centerboard up. So the shallow draft makes running aground less likely than a full-depth keel boat of equal size, and even if I do run aground, I can step off and be in water only up to my waist.
The seller of my boat told me he ran aground a few times and just climbed over, stood in the water and pushed the boat off. Although I'm thinking that would work only if you're just lightly aground, considering the boat weighs probably something like 12,000 pounds.
I have to get to making a dinghy...
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27-10-2010, 10:31
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#47
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Live Iowa - Sail mostly Bahamas
Boat: Beneteau 32.5
Posts: 2,307
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I've been grounded twice. Both times in the Abacos. Once with both bilge keels on the ground, but the rising tide took me off in less than an hour. The other time I was kedged off with the help of a small power boat.
While it's not fun sitting there stuck on the bottom, I'm much more worried about really hitting something hard like a reef or sea container.
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27-10-2010, 11:24
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#48
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Brooklin, Maine U.S.A
Boat: Allures 44
Posts: 734
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Ran my parent's Nonsuch 30 hard onto a chunk of Maine granite. Turned the fin keel into a wing keel! Had to make a mold and recast the foot of the keel, as well as repaint the epoxy barrier coat, which cracked. No damage to the hull, however, and the bilges were still perfectly dry afterwards. What a great boat.
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30-10-2010, 18:04
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#49
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: new orleans
Boat: hunter 27, hunter 41
Posts: 207
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All depends on the bottom. I grew up sailing louisiana and mississippi where the bottoms are soft and it was simply a matter of doing an immediate 180 and sailing/motoring off. Then I bought a boat in ft Lauderdale and in process of bringing it around to west Florida grounded a few times. An education for sure. The Keys are not barrier islands but coral reefs..(rock) , not good. Also on Ms and La charts, if they say the water is 6' you know that is worst case and usually you have more water than that. From my expierance in S fla., I found that the water was usually less than claimed. I ended up loosing the boat to Keel damage. Progressive Insc would not fix it, they paid me off even though the boat yard estimate was 1/4 of pay of. I would recomend them to anyone. So, if you dont have personal knowledge of the water you are in... add at least 2' to what chart says.
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30-10-2010, 19:31
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#50
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South coast of England, moving around a bit.
Boat: Long range motor cruiser
Posts: 750
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When I bought my present boat the previous owner told me to be very, very careful not to run aground After a 6 day trip back to the UK in less than smooth conditions (read really bumpy) we were more than glad to get into Poole harbor. There is a ferry that runs to Cherbourg, it charges down the fairway and I met it as it was leaving. Someone on the bridge of the ferry was on the radio asking me to clear their passage, even though I was right on the edge of the channel. You guessed it, I moved over a little more and ran aground on a rapidly falling tide just near Brownsea Island. Fortunately it's really soft mud there and we settled into the mud with the stabilizer fins keeping us on an even keel. You have to see how fast the tide recedes there to really know how helpless you can feel. By the time we had the dinghy launched to kedge off it was obvious that if we used it, the dinghy wouldn't be able to get back to the boat and the possibility of kedging off was long gone. We had a barbecue instead No damage, except to my ego, thank goodness. Like everyone else, my fear is rocks or coral reef, though containers do exercise my mind when I try to plan for emergencies.
P.
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30-10-2010, 19:39
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#51
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South coast of England, moving around a bit.
Boat: Long range motor cruiser
Posts: 750
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dakno
Snip... add at least 2' to what chart says.
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I hope and think you mean deduct.
P.
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30-10-2010, 21:58
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Boat: Oceanis 411
Posts: 239
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twice - near low tide.
Beer time. Wait. Push on.
Sandy - not rocky!
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30-10-2010, 22:31
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#53
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: New Mexico, USA
Boat: International Etchells USA 125 Black Magic, Santana 20 475 Ghost, Hobie 33 3100 Bruja, dinghies,
Posts: 1,118
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"Ahm Cap'n Salty and ah knows evry shaller spot in this heah bay."
Crash!
"See, thasss another 'un!"
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30-10-2010, 22:37
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Gabriola Island & Victoria, British Columbia
Boat: Cooper 416 Honeysuckle
Posts: 6,933
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FraidNot
twice - near low tide.
Beer time. Wait. Push on.
Sandy - not rocky!
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It looks like haiku
Summer beer and hidden rock
Sand is decieving
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31-10-2010, 04:53
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Boat: Oceanis 411
Posts: 239
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jeez - probably the first poetry in my life then mate!
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31-10-2010, 05:18
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#56
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: St. Georges, Bda
Boat: Rhodes Reliant 41ft
Posts: 4,131
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Yeah!!-I've made the coral around here duck and run for cover once or twice.
Worst was late afternoon sun in my eyes, lining up shore bearing with a cow and a C & W tower from when I went the other direction previous day.
Nope-cow didn't move-they took the tower down.
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31-10-2010, 07:34
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#57
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Port Ludlow Wa
Boat: Makela,Ingrid38,Idora
Posts: 2,050
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HO HO HO
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Stocking
Yeah!!-I've made the coral around here duck and run for cover once or twice.
Worst was late afternoon sun in my eyes, lining up shore bearing with a cow and a C & W tower from when I went the other direction previous day.
Nope-cow didn't move-they took the tower down.
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LMAO, blaming cows for grounding........ who ever heard of a range that included a cow. Was there any rum left?
Todd
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31-10-2010, 07:53
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#58
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: FL
Boat: Far East Mariner 40
Posts: 652
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Not counting the numerous times we have dinged or skipped off the bottom, twice we were stuck and had to really work to get off, Old TeaKettle Creek and the Bohemia in the Cheasapeak. I know the spelling is terrible...It happens...
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31-10-2010, 08:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: St. Georges, Bda
Boat: Rhodes Reliant 41ft
Posts: 4,131
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IdoraKeeper
LMAO, blaming cows for grounding........ who ever heard of a range that included a cow. Was there any rum left?
Todd
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You catch on fast
Age old excuse for "buying real estate" on Bermuda's north side
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31-10-2010, 11:00
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#60
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Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 9
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Coming thru Nassau on our first trip to the Exumas gathered around the pool of the marina asking quesitons of cruisers who were cruising back up. One cruiser asked me if we have run hard aground and I replied not so we couldn't get off within a few minutes. He said, "you will!" and laughed. Several days later we headed down to Norman from Nassau to beat a front coming in the following week. According to Pavlidis' book, Norman Pond is a good hidey hole! Entered Norman Pond as the sun was setting (bad time) and ran aground inside of the entrance about 5 seconds before I saw the "marker" on the beach (read the book). Spent an hour and half kedging but by 7:30 we figured we were there for the night. It wasn't scarey, it was worrisome & interesting. Our big fat wing keel kept the boat from tilting. around 11:00 the water was below the seacock on the head. By 6:00AM we started to move and by early morning were anchored in 12' of water a few feet from our sandbar! We ran aground in another spot "on Norman Pond" but just waited for the tide to float us off. It was a good place to be during a strong front coming from the west and eventually got out of there (with a little help from a fishing boat). Just adds to the experience.
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