|
|
21-09-2009, 12:23
|
#1
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: We're technically refugees from our home in Yemen now living in Lebenon
Boat: 1978 CT48
Posts: 5,970
|
Proper Designation S/V or S/Y?
I've always believed that S/V (Sailing Vessel) was the proper prefix to the name of my boat...however I've recently been told that S/V is for commercial use and that S/Y (Sailing Yacht) is the appropriate designation.
I'm wondering what is correct.
__________________
James
S/V Arctic Lady
I love my boat, I can't afford not to!
|
|
|
21-09-2009, 12:29
|
#2
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC & Seattle, WA
Posts: 635
|
Sailing vessel is a "catch all" which includes sailing yachts. It is the overwhelming choice, but really comes down to preference. Many might not even know exactly what S/Y meant. If Identifying yourself to a foreign coast guard - I'd venture to say that you'd want the least ambiguity possible.
Mayday, Mayday: This is S/V Arctic Lady - would instantly provide all with an accurate scenario of what type of vessel was in need of assistance.
Mayday, Mayday: This is S/Y Arctic Lady might easily invite the response :"Please repeat" unnecessarily costing valuable moments.
But in the final analysis, it's personal choice...
__________________
I'm On point, On task, On message, and Off drugs. A Streetwise Smart Bomb, Out of rehab and In denial. Over the Top, On the edge, Under the Radar, and In Control. Behind the 8 ball, Ahead of the Curve and I've got a Love Child who sends me Hate mail. - (George Carlin)
|
|
|
21-09-2009, 14:14
|
#3
|
Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
Posts: 51,584
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussiesuede
... If Identifying yourself to a foreign coast guard - I'd venture to say that you'd want the least ambiguity possible.
Mayday, Mayday: This is S/V Arctic Lady - would instantly provide all with an accurate scenario of what type of vessel was in need of assistance.
Mayday, Mayday: This is S/Y Arctic Lady might easily invite the response :"Please repeat" unnecessarily costing valuable moments.
|
I certainly endorse your comments regarding obvious clarity.
However, I doubt that anyone would identify themselves as an “s/v” (sierra victor) or s/y” (sierra yankee) in a MAYDAY /PanPan call. I’de more expect the distress vessel to identify themselves as sailing vessel/yacht “XYZ”.
__________________
Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
|
|
|
21-09-2009, 14:25
|
#4
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Boat: 48' 1963 S&S yawl
Posts: 851
|
When hailed by the Coasties or commercial traffic, we've always been referred to as "Sailing Vessel", so that's what we use in reply.
We refer to commercial traffic as "Motor Vessel"
Works great, no ambiguity.
The phonetics are used for the name if necessary. Never for the type of boat in my experience.
|
|
|
21-09-2009, 14:34
|
#5
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Benenden, Kent, UK
Boat: 1953 McGruer 33' and 1949 Vertue V26
Posts: 28
|
The initial call for a Mayday doesn't include S/Y or S/V, just the name and or Identification. The S/Y/V bit comes in the description so it doesn't really apply.
Cheers,
Jim
S/Y/V Siempre of Dartmouth
__________________
Jim
S/Y Tiarella
1953 McGruer 33'
|
|
|
21-09-2009, 14:48
|
#6
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Boat: 48' 1963 S&S yawl
Posts: 851
|
I use "Sailing vessel" for Securite calls.
|
|
|
22-09-2009, 15:27
|
#7
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 21,129
|
I have seen many Canadians / USAmericans / Kiwis use the s/v.
S/y is quite popular among German/Scandinavian boats.
Is this s/v/y a required prefix (I mean something obligatory placed in front of the boat's name on a registration form) in any of the countries you are in?
b.
|
|
|
22-09-2009, 15:39
|
#8
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 211
|
In the UK the correct phraseology would be:
"Mayday, Mayday, Mayday. This is Yacht Arctic Lady, Arctic Lady, Arctic Lady. Mayday Yacht Arctic Lady. My position is..."
|
|
|
22-09-2009, 16:33
|
#9
|
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 6,252
|
ColRegs defines "sailing vessel" but not "sailing yachts."
I do not know if that is a valid argument, but I use S/V.
Jack
__________________
CRYA Yachtmaster Ocean Instructor Evaluator, Sail
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
|
|
|
22-09-2009, 18:10
|
#10
|
Long Range Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Australian living on "Sea Life" currently in England.
Boat: Beneteau 393 "Sea Life"
Posts: 12,820
|
In Australia there is no designation SV or SY we are just ships.
So a mayday will just be the ships name: Mayday Mayday Mayday this is Dreamer, Dreamer, Dreamer, latitude.....
I was always taught to reduce words (not on the internet lololol).
Official Call sign is superfluous untill there is confirmed contact, and the type of vessel can be left to the detail part of a mayday message.
Mark
|
|
|
22-09-2009, 18:56
|
#11
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Live Iowa - Sail mostly Bahamas
Boat: Beneteau 32.5
Posts: 2,307
|
It would be a stretch to consider most of the vessels I've owned "yachts".
|
|
|
22-09-2009, 21:10
|
#12
|
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Boat: Research vessel for a university, retired now.
Posts: 10,405
|
I'm with Mark. Most of the time is is unnecessary to say what type of vessel you are. It just adds to the clutter.
__________________
David
Life begins where land ends.
|
|
|
23-09-2009, 01:06
|
#13
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: We're technically refugees from our home in Yemen now living in Lebenon
Boat: 1978 CT48
Posts: 5,970
|
My "Certificate of Documentation" is from the "National Vessel Documentation Center"
and my boats name in in the box with the heading "Vessel Name"
but no S/V in front of the name.... by their hand.
I guess I'll stay with the S/V.
__________________
James
S/V Arctic Lady
I love my boat, I can't afford not to!
|
|
|
23-09-2009, 10:04
|
#14
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 21,129
|
Interestingly, in Spain (in spoken Spanish) the 'yate' is reserved primarily for luxurious motor yachts (things you will see moored in Monaco). So, if you want to say that you sailed in a yacht, you have to use the word 'barco' or better yet 'barco de vela'. If you say you came in a yacht they will glance at your clogs and immediatelly see you as a liar...
;-)))
b.
|
|
|
23-09-2009, 10:30
|
#15
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Boat: 48' 1963 S&S yawl
Posts: 851
|
As said, (on the Lakes at least) it's common practice when talking to commercial shipping to identify as either a S/V or M/V on 16, names only on the working channel.
|
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Rate This Thread |
Linear Mode
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Advertise Here
Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Vendor Spotlight |
|
|
|
|